[vtkusers] Idea: move from mailing lists to Discourse

[Mathieu Westphal]

Discourse is an open source software.
 We will host it ourselves.

Best,

On Fri, 23 Mar 2018, 20:26 Sid Murthy, <sid.murthy at gmail.com> wrote:

> $100 - $300 a month or more for discourse? Who is picking up the tab?
>
>
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> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Utkarsh Ayachit <
> utkarsh.ayachit at kitware.com> wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> Here's the survey summary along with a summary of responses. I'm clubbing
>> ParaView and VTK results since they are similar and probably choose to do
>> the same thing. Most of the negative comments seem to have one theme -- the
>> mailing list mode. For those who want to use email client as the way to
>> receive and respond to messages seem to have not had the best experience.
>> However, if we simply use the activity on forum as an indicator, we notice
>> that both ITK and Slicer saw a decent bump. Our sysadmins have also said
>> that they'd rather move to Discourse as that'd open more hosting options as
>> it no longer requires the project websites and mailing lists to be hosted
>> on the same server.
>>
>> *VTK Voting Results (66 responses)*
>>
>> Yes: 59.1 %
>> No: 24.2 %
>> Neutral: 12.1%
>>
>> *ParaView Voting Results (46 responses)*
>>
>> Yes: 58.7 %
>> No: 15.2 %
>> Neutral: 21.7 %
>>
>>
>> *Summary of NAY comments:*
>>
>>    - Mailing-list mode for discourse has formatting issues.
>>       - Replies don't respect quotations forcing responders to use HTML
>>       modes.
>>       - Changes to `from` address makes off list responses impossible
>>       - replying to `from` address bounces, making `reply all` not work
>>       - discards signatures
>>    - Easier to lurk and monitor mailing list messages without having to
>>    visit website for updates
>>
>>
>> *Summary of YAY comments:*
>>
>>    - Several users on other projects have had positive experience
>>    - better code formatting/editing of posts etc.
>>    - better searching capabilities
>>    - ability to subscribe to topics
>>    - ability to organize, control, edit, attach etc
>>    - easier to filter spam (mailing list has been targeted by email
>>    spoofers in recent weeks)
>>
>> *Stats from Slicer/ITK migration (monthly avg. messages):*
>>
>>    -  ITK
>>       - mailing lists (itk-users + itk-developers): 148
>>       - Discourse: 297.
>>    - Slicer
>>       - mailing lists: 247
>>       - Discourse: 639
>>
>>
>> Given all that, my conclusion is we should move ahead with this
>> migration. Please yell if you think that isn't a fair conclusion. Not sure
>> of the timeline for the migration or how to organize it etc etc, but that
>> can be a separate conversation.
>>
>> Thanks all for participating.
>>
>> Utkarsh
>>
>>
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