[vtkusers] Idea: move from mailing lists to Discourse

[Sid Murthy]

$100 - $300 a month or more for discourse? Who is picking up the tab?



On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Utkarsh Ayachit <
utkarsh.ayachit at kitware.com> wrote:

> Folks,
>
> Here's the survey summary along with a summary of responses. I'm clubbing
> ParaView and VTK results since they are similar and probably choose to do
> the same thing. Most of the negative comments seem to have one theme -- the
> mailing list mode. For those who want to use email client as the way to
> receive and respond to messages seem to have not had the best experience.
> However, if we simply use the activity on forum as an indicator, we notice
> that both ITK and Slicer saw a decent bump. Our sysadmins have also said
> that they'd rather move to Discourse as that'd open more hosting options as
> it no longer requires the project websites and mailing lists to be hosted
> on the same server.
>
> *VTK Voting Results (66 responses)*
>
> Yes: 59.1 %
> No: 24.2 %
> Neutral: 12.1%
>
> *ParaView Voting Results (46 responses)*
>
> Yes: 58.7 %
> No: 15.2 %
> Neutral: 21.7 %
>
>
> *Summary of NAY comments:*
>
>    - Mailing-list mode for discourse has formatting issues.
>       - Replies don't respect quotations forcing responders to use HTML
>       modes.
>       - Changes to `from` address makes off list responses impossible
>       - replying to `from` address bounces, making `reply all` not work
>       - discards signatures
>    - Easier to lurk and monitor mailing list messages without having to
>    visit website for updates
>
>
> *Summary of YAY comments:*
>
>    - Several users on other projects have had positive experience
>    - better code formatting/editing of posts etc.
>    - better searching capabilities
>    - ability to subscribe to topics
>    - ability to organize, control, edit, attach etc
>    - easier to filter spam (mailing list has been targeted by email
>    spoofers in recent weeks)
>
> *Stats from Slicer/ITK migration (monthly avg. messages):*
>
>    -  ITK
>       - mailing lists (itk-users + itk-developers): 148
>       - Discourse: 297.
>    - Slicer
>       - mailing lists: 247
>       - Discourse: 639
>
>
> Given all that, my conclusion is we should move ahead with this migration.
> Please yell if you think that isn't a fair conclusion. Not sure of the
> timeline for the migration or how to organize it etc etc, but that can be a
> separate conversation.
>
> Thanks all for participating.
>
> Utkarsh
>
>
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