[vtk-developers] Modularization, Context2D and Tcl

Tue Mar 27 09:15:40 EDT 2012

The code from the book is at:
  http://vtk.org/files/VTKTextbook

David E DeMarle
Kitware, Inc.
R&D Engineer
21 Corporate Drive
Clifton Park, NY 12065-8662
Phone: 518-881-4909

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Jean-Christophe Fillion-Robin
<jchris.fillionr at kitware.com> wrote:
>
> Is the code used in the book available in a repo ? May be it would make sens
> to publish the code and have it tested against both the latest stable VTK
> and the master. From there it should be "possible" to regenerate the book
> and consider the published code tested :)
>
> And as a side note, interestingly, if on github.com, you search for "Tcl"
> and "Python", you get respectively
>
>   Tcl:             277 repositories,     225162 souces
>   Python: 24133 repositories,   2967990 sources
>
> Jc
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Aashish Chaudhary
> <aashish.chaudhary at kitware.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Will Schroeder
>> <will.schroeder at kitware.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have no philosophical issue with removing TCL. Please note however that
>>> somebody is going to have to do a lot of work to rewrite two VTK books
>>> (textbook and user's guide) not to mention a hell of a lot of examples.
>>> Aashish are you volunteering?
>>
>>
>> Ahh..I completely forgot about books (which tells me that its being long
>> time since I read these books), TCL tests and examples are helpful but not
>> sure how much they are helping others. I can volunteer  myself if needed,
>> but you have a very good point.
>>>
>>>
>>> W
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Aashish Chaudhary
>>> <aashish.chaudhary at kitware.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I know at least one person (Bill, cc'd) using  TCL wrapping
>>>> but recently he switched to Python (not completely though).  My personal
>>>> vote is +1 to remove TCL support.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Biddiscombe, John A. <biddisco at cscs.ch>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 for dropping TCL support :)
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: vtk-developers-bounces at vtk.org
>>>>> [mailto:vtk-developers-bounces at vtk.org] On Behalf Of Marcus D. Hanwell
>>>>> Sent: 26 March 2012 17:50
>>>>> To: Jean-Christophe Fillion-Robin
>>>>> Cc: VTK Developers
>>>>> Subject: Re: [vtk-developers] Modularization, Context2D and Tcl
>>>>>
>>>>> So, for now I have applied a mapping of numerals to Roman numerals, and
>>>>> that works well. The TCL objects have the 2 replaced by II, everything else
>>>>> remains as is. This is a possible option too, although I am not particularly
>>>>> tied to the name.
>>>>>
>>>>> None of these classes were ever wrapped in Tcl or Java as we failed to
>>>>> add the handwritten code to make them part of those wrapped imports.
>>>>> This is not automated, but it does beg the question of how many Tcl
>>>>> users are out there and if they are largely supporting legacy Tcl scripts
>>>>> and not looking at new API.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Marcus D. Hanwell
>>>>> <marcus.hanwell at kitware.com> wrote:
>>>>> > That was my other thought, although at this stage the 3D stuff is so
>>>>> > new and small it hardly seems worth it. It also looks ugly to me, but
>>>>> > I could learn to live with it. As a policy it looks like we must only
>>>>> > allow letters a-z to guarantee it will work everywhere (or do some
>>>>> > weird transform for Tcl).
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Jean-Christophe Fillion-Robin
>>>>> > <jchris.fillionr at kitware.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> Good point.
>>>>> >> On the other want if we still want to maintain the difference, what
>>>>> >> about "ContextThreeD" and "ContextTwoD" ?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Jc
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Marcus D. Hanwell
>>>>> >> <marcus.hanwell at kitware.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Hi,
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Tcl has been an adventure. It appears that Tcl modules are not
>>>>> >>> allowed to have numbers in them, and so Rendering/Context2D and
>>>>> >>> Views/Context2D will have to change. Perhaps their names can simply
>>>>> >>> be Context, and that would remove the oddness that the 2D context
>>>>> >>> modules have some 3D rendering code in there too.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Marcus
>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> >>> Powered by www.kitware.com
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Visit other Kitware open-source projects at
>>>>> >>> http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe:
>>>>> >>> http://www.vtk.org/mailman/listinfo/vtk-developers
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >> +1 919 869 8849
>>>>> >>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Powered by www.kitware.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Visit other Kitware open-source projects at
>>>>> http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe:
>>>>> http://www.vtk.org/mailman/listinfo/vtk-developers
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Powered by www.kitware.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Visit other Kitware open-source projects at
>>>>> http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe:
>>>>> http://www.vtk.org/mailman/listinfo/vtk-developers
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> | Aashish Chaudhary
>>>> | R&D Engineer
>>>> | Kitware Inc.
>>>> | www.kitware.com
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Powered by www.kitware.com
>>>>
>>>> Visit other Kitware open-source projects at
>>>> http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html
>>>>
>>>> Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe:
>>>> http://www.vtk.org/mailman/listinfo/vtk-developers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> William J. Schroeder, PhD
>>> Kitware, Inc.
>>> 28 Corporate Drive
>>> Clifton Park, NY 12065
>>> will.schroeder at kitware.com
>>> http://www.kitware.com
>>> (518) 881-4902
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> | Aashish Chaudhary
>> | R&D Engineer
>> | Kitware Inc.
>> | www.kitware.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Powered by www.kitware.com
>>
>> Visit other Kitware open-source projects at
>> http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html
>>
>> Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe:
>> http://www.vtk.org/mailman/listinfo/vtk-developers
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> +1 919 869 8849
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Powered by www.kitware.com
>
> Visit other Kitware open-source projects at
> http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html
>
> Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe:
> http://www.vtk.org/mailman/listinfo/vtk-developers
>
>