[Paraview-developers] 100% CPU usage once again
Paul Kapinos
kapinos at itc.rwth-aachen.de
Wed Oct 11 12:18:57 EDT 2017
Kenneth, thank you for your message and the update of the wiki!
Meanwhile I was able to reproduce the busy waiting with Open MPI (and other
MPIs) on a 10-line-example and asked the Open MPI developers about this:
https://www.mail-archive.com/devel@lists.open-mpi.org//msg20407.html
The spinning processes stuck at MPI_Barrier call in line 40 of
'ParaView-v5.4.1/VTK/Parallel/MPI/vtkMPICommunicator.cxx' file,
> 34 static inline void vtkMPICommunicatorDebugBarrier(MPI_Comm* handle)
> 35 {
> 36 // If NDEBUG is defined, do nothing.
> 37 #ifdef NDEBUG
> 38 (void)handle; // to avoid warning about unused parameter
> 39 #else
> 40 MPI_Barrier(*handle);
> 41 #endif
> 42 }
It seem that ParaView's auto-build VTK version is build without NDEBUG define,
or with other words, *with* debug stuff.
Q: Is there a way to tell the ParaView's configure to set the VTK's define
'NDEBUG'? Or, more general, how-to tune VTK parameters? :o)
Have a nice day,
Paul Kapinos
On 10/09/2017 11:27 PM, Moreland, Kenneth wrote:
> Paul,
>
> Thanks for the info. I updated the Wiki page with your information. Hopefully I captured everything.
>
> I'll let someone from Kitware respond about the possibility of changing the binaries that are distributed.
>
> -Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paraview-developers [mailto:paraview-developers-bounces at paraview.org] On Behalf Of Paul Kapinos
> Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 1:08 AM
> To: paraview-developers at paraview.org
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Paraview-developers] 100% CPU usage once again
>
> (cross-post from 'paraview at paraview.org' 10/04/2017)
>
> Dear ParaView developer,
>
> in [1] you say
>> If you have information on disabling the busy wait using a different
>> MPI implementation, please contribute back by documenting it here.
>
> Here we go.
>
> a)
> It is possible to build 'pvserver' using Intel MPI (and GCC compilers).
> By setting I_MPI_WAIT_MODE environment variable to 'enable' value you can effectively prevent busy waiting, see [2] p.10 (Tested with Intel MPI 5.1(.3.181)).
>
> Q/FR.1 Could you please provide a version of 'pvserver' build using Intel MPI in official release of ParaView? [4]
>
>
>
> b)
> It is (obviously) possible to build 'pvserver' using MPICH (and GCC compilers).
> Itself, MPICH can be *configured* with '--with-device=ch3:sock' option. This is described to be 'slower' as '--with-device=ch3:nemesis'
> For our experiments it turned out, that 'pvserver' compiled and linked using MPICH with 'ch3:sock' configure option did not have the busy waiting aka 100%-CPU behaviour.
> Note that this is *configure-time of MPI library* parameter.
>
>
> (Tested with MPICH 3.2)
>
> Q/FR.2 Could you please provide a version of 'pvserver' build using MPICH *configured with '--with-device=ch3:sock' option* in official release of ParaView? [4] This binary will be very likely be even compatible with 'standard' MPICH installations; we're able to start it even with IntelMPI's 'mpiexec' with success and no busy waiting. However YES you will need to have a MPICH release be build
>
>
>
>
> c)
> It is possible to build 'pvserver' using Open MPI (and GCC compilers).
> In [1] you document how-to 'turn off' the busy waiting behaviour in Open MPI (cf. [5],[6]).
> Unfortunately this *did not work* in our environment (InfiniBand QDR and Intel OmniPath clusters, OpenMPI 1.10.4).
> Note that likely we're not alone, cf. [7].
> Note that the switch likely just move the spinning location from MPI library itself to the fabrics library (cf. the screenshots, without 'mpi_yield_when_idle 1' (=default) the 'pvserver' processes spin with 'green' aka user 100%, and with 'mpi_yield_when_idle 1' the processes stays spinning but now with a lot of 'red'
> aka kernel time portion.
>
> Conclusion: the way to disable busy waiting for Open MPI which is documented in [1], is not useful for us. We do not know this is a speciality of our site or a general issue; we think some survey at this point could be useful.
>
> Q/FR.3 In case you should want to provide precompiled versions ov 'pvserver' for Open MPI, remember that there are ABI changes in major version changes. So you would likely need to compile+link *three* versions of 'pvserver' with Open MPI 1.10.x (still default in Linux), 2.x (current), 3.x (new).
>
>
>
> d) In [10] there is a phrase about how-to disable busy waiting on yet another two MPI implementaions,
>> ... IBM MPI has the MP_WAIT_MODE and
>> the SUPER-UX MPI/XS library has MPISUSPEND to choose the waiting mode,
>> either polling or sleeping.
>
> Somebody with access to there MPIs could evaluate this, maybe.
>
> Have a nice day,
>
> Paul Kapinos
>
>
>
> [1]
> https://www.paraview.org/Wiki/Setting_up_a_ParaView_Server#Server_processes_always_have_100.25_CPU_usage
>
> [2]
> https://software.intel.com/sites/products/Whitepaper/Clustertools/amplxe_inspxe_interop_with_mpi.pdf
> (cf. p.10)
>
> [3]
> https://wiki.mpich.org/mpich/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Q:_Why_does_my_MPI_program_run_much_slower_when_I_use_more_processes.3F
>
> [4] https://www.paraview.org/download/
>
> [5] http://www.open-mpi.org/faq/?category=running#oversubscribing
>
> [6] http://www.open-mpi.org/faq/?category=running#force-aggressive-degraded
>
> [7] https://www.paraview.org/pipermail/paraview/2008-December/010349.html
>
> [8] http://blogs.cisco.com/performance/polling-vs-blocking-message-passingprogress
>
> [9] https://www.open-mpi.org/community/lists/users/2010/10/14505.php
>
> [10] http://comp.parallel.mpi.narkive.com/3oXMDXno/non-busy-waiting-barrier-in-mpi
>
> [11] http://blogs.cisco.com/performance/polling-vs-blocking-message-passingprogress
>
> [12] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14560714/probe-seems-to-consume-the-cpu
>
>
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Dipl.-Inform. Paul Kapinos - High Performance Computing,
RWTH Aachen University, IT Center
Seffenter Weg 23, D 52074 Aachen (Germany)
Tel: +49 241/80-24915
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