[ITK-dev] [ITK] Community versus Users Lists

Sat Apr 2 14:00:41 EDT 2016

I guess I never really liked adding the community list. Seems like a
user list and developer list covers everyone. VTK has one of each as
does Slicer.

On Sat, Apr 2, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Andras Lasso <lasso at queensu.ca> wrote:
> Instead of asking people to decide between final solutions (which is
> difficult for them and also doesn’t reveal actual preferences), please ask
> what people need. If preferences are known then you can choose the best
> fitting solution. For example good questions would be:
>
>
>
> 1.       I’m interested in discussions about how to use ITK:
>
> a.       Yes
>
> b.       Not that much, but I don’t mind getting emails about it
>
> c.       No, and I don’t want to see any emails about it
>
> 2.       I’m interested in discussions about ITK internals and how it is
> being developed:
>
> a.       Yes
>
> b.       Not that much, but I don’t mind getting emails about it
>
> c.       No, and I don’t want to see any emails about it
>
> 3.       If the ITK mailing list that I subscribed to changes in scope,
> then:
>
> a.       Subscribe me to the new list
>
> b.       Just remove me from the mailing list; I’ll subscribe manually to
> the new list if I’m interested
>
>
>
> Andras
>
>
>
> From: Matt McCormick [mailto:matt.mccormick at kitware.com]
> Sent: April 2, 2016 12:18 PM
> To: Dženan Zukić <dzenanz at gmail.com>
> Cc: Andras Lasso <lasso at queensu.ca>; community at itk.org;
> insight-users at itk.org; ITK <insight-developers at itk.org>
>
>
> Subject: Re: [ITK] Community versus Users Lists
>
>
>
> Here is a draft of the poll:
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/19BL8Gbb3Z0qdekys2i6keHPZSdkSOgbRg84mWOhEu8U/viewform
>
> Are there any suggestions on the wording? Missing options?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Matt McCormick
> <matt.mccormick at kitware.com> wrote:
>
> Doodle polls are usually for scheduling times only (as far as I am
> aware).  Perhaps a Google Form?
>
> M
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Dženan Zukić <dzenanz at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> since ITK is now in a mature phase, there is not a lot of traffic on
>> ITK-Developers. I suppose the best would be to completely transition to
>> just
>> one list (community) which was created for that purpose. This would
>> simplify
>> things.
>>
>> But having a poll sounds like a good idea. Did you mean something like a
>> Doodle poll, or somehow restrict the poll to just the members of the 3
>> mailing lists?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dženan
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 11:22 PM, Matt McCormick
>> <matt.mccormick at kitware.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The current situation is not optimal, and it is difficult to keep all
>>> parties involved happy.
>>>
>>> - Some people do not want to be bothered to subscribe to more than one
>>> list, be it community, insight-users, or insight-developers.
>>> - Some people on insight-developers do not want to be auto-subscribed
>>> to a different list that has a different amount of traffic.
>>> - There are a number of non-mailman interfaces to the mailing lists
>>> that may not adapt to changes (Nabble, GMane, etc.), and some people
>>> use these interfaces exclusively.
>>>
>>> Any change will result in some unhappy campers, but some change may
>>> still be necessary to improve the status quo.
>>>
>>> Perhaps we should create a poll distributed to all lists to select a
>>> way forward? Other constructive ideas?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Matt
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 10:01 PM, Andras Lasso <lasso at queensu.ca> wrote:
>>> > I completely agree. Either a single community list or pair of
>>> > devel&users
>>> > makes sense.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > My personal experience: I've signed up to the community list when it
>>> > was
>>> > created and unsubscribed from users. However, it was quite annoying
>>> > that
>>> > I
>>> > received emails from users list but my responses were bounced. So, I
>>> > had
>>> > to
>>> > sign up again to the users list. I still don’t know where to send new
>>> > posts:
>>> > users or community.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Andras
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: Michka Popoff
>>> > Sent: March 26, 2016 14:24
>>> > To: Matt McCormick
>>> > Cc: community at itk.org
>>> > Subject: Re: [ITK] Community versus Users Lists
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Hi
>>> >
>>> > one thought about this. If I remember well, (but I may be mistaken),
>>> > the community at itk.org address was introduced to replace the two others.
>>> >
>>> > Now, we have to follow 3 different mailing lists. The mail traffic is
>>> > okay
>>> > for me on
>>> > these 3 lists, so having only one would be great.
>>> > It would help people to know which one to use.
>>> >
>>> > Or we should go back to the old behaviour, with a user/developer list.
>>> > But I think developers want also to know what they users are doing,
>>> > so they are often registered on the two (/three) anyway.
>>> >
>>> > Michka
>>> >
>>> >> On 17 Mar 2016, at 16:42, Matt McCormick <matt.mccormick at kitware.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi Toby,
>>> >>
>>> >> To post to the insight-users or insight-developers list, your email
>>> >> account currently needs to be subscribed there, too.
>>> >>
>>> >> Matt
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 5:47 AM, Wood, Tobias <tobias.wood at kcl.ac.uk>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>> Hello,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Apologies for a newbie question but this has been bugging me for a
>>> >>> while.
>>> >>> I am subscribed to the community at itk.org mailing list. As noted on
>>> >>> the
>>> >>> sign-up page, this also receives all the mail from insight-users (and
>>> >>> insight-developers). When I try to reply to a message from one of
>>> >>> these
>>> >>> lists in my mail client, the reply-to address is set to
>>> >>> insight-users.
>>> >>> If I
>>> >>> send the message as is, I get a failure message telling me I am not
>>> >>> subscribed to the mailing list (which is correct).
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> How should I be responding to such e-mail threads? Will a reply to
>>> >>> community at itk.org forward the message on to insight-users? Or should
>>> >>> I
>>> >>> be
>>> >>> subscribing to all 3 mailing lists (seems suboptimal as I assume I
>>> >>> will get
>>> >>> multiple copies of messages).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks,
>>> >>> Toby
>>> >>> _______________________________________________
>>> >>> Community mailing list
>>> >>> Community at itk.org
>>> >>> http://public.kitware.com/mailman/listinfo/community
>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>> >> Community mailing list
>>> >> Community at itk.org
>>> >> http://public.kitware.com/mailman/listinfo/community
>>> >
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Community mailing list
>>> > Community at itk.org
>>> > http://public.kitware.com/mailman/listinfo/community
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Community mailing list
>>> Community at itk.org
>>> http://public.kitware.com/mailman/listinfo/community
>>
>>
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