[Insight-developers] [ITK Community] Is dashboard hackathon still needed?

Tue Dec 17 16:42:56 EST 2013

So,

what's the current status ? Is there are warnings on official ITK build 
dashboard that have to be addressed right now?

(Apart from M_PI issue on Visual Studio) ?

On 13-12-17 04:36 PM, Matt McCormick wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Vladimir S. FONOV
> <vladimir.fonov at gmail.com> wrote:
>> So, this approach actually have nothing to do with the question if feature
>> is actually needed or not?
>>
>
> This feature definitely adds huge value both to ITK and the medical
> imaging community in general.
>
>> I suggest a new radical solution - remove all the features from ITK, then
>> you will have a perfectly clean and neat dashboard and nothing to worry
>> about
>
> That would be very sad.
>
> The objective is get the Nightly dashboard builds all green, then the
> CDash at Home builds green with this feature enabled.  This way, if
> something unrelated to MINCIO is added but breaks MINCIO, it is
> noticed and fixed by the author.  Getting and keeping the dashboard
> clean is way to prevent everyone from breaking each other's code so
> that we all benefit from each others work.
>
> Thank you for all the work that has been put into the ITK-MINC
> integration.  It is highly valued.  With these improvements, your
> maintenance burden will be reduced.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13-12-17 03:59 PM, Johnson, Hans J wrote:
>>>
>>> If warnings persist, that feature in ITK will be placed into a deprecated
>>> status, and will be prime material to remove in future releases.
>>>
>>> It does not necessarily need to be you, but in a community development
>>> environment, if the there is not sufficient support for removing compiler
>>> warnings that is a strong statement about the lack of importance for that
>>> component of the toolkit in future versions.
>>>
>>> I understand the that there are never enough resources.  Please try to
>>> recruit a fan-base of others who feel this is an important part of ITK and
>>> that they should address the issues that you can not.
>>>
>>> Hans
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "Vladimir S. FONOV" <vladimir.fonov at gmail.com>
>>> Date: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 2:55 PM
>>> To: Bill Lorensen <bill.lorensen at gmail.com>, Hans Johnson
>>> <hans-johnson at uiowa.edu>
>>> Cc: Sean McBride <sean at rogue-research.com>, ITK
>>> <insight-developers at itk.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Insight-developers] [ITK Community] Is dashboard hackathon
>>> still needed?
>>>
>>> OK,
>>>
>>> I personally have a situation when I have to allocate limited resources
>>> (my time) between different projects, not all of them being software
>>> development.
>>>
>>> So, convince me why I have to spend any more time on this particular
>>> project then absolutely necessary.
>>>
>>> By the way, did anybody actually verify that my changes actually solve
>>> original problem (i.e compilation for Windows) instead of
>>> procrastinating and fixing compiler warnings ?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 13-12-17 03:46 PM, Bill Lorensen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A few years back at a NA_MIC project Week in SLC, I suggested that
>>>> warnings are the graffiti of software quality. Here is a summary:
>>>>
>>>> The book, The Tipping Point, analyses trends and how they take hold.
>>>> As (NAME YOUR SOFTWARE) grows and the number of contributors
>>>> increases, there needs to be tighter controls on the quality of the
>>>> system. The larger the code base, number of platforms and developers,
>>>> the more need there is for attention to quality.
>>>>
>>>> In the Tipping Point, a chapter on increasing crime in New York City
>>>> in the 1990's describes how the trend was reversed. The city
>>>> concentrated areas like cleaning graffiti from subway cars. The author
>>>> claims that this and other seemingly trivial goals may have led to a
>>>> reversal of the crime trend.
>>>>
>>>> This project hypothesizes that compilation warnings are the graffiti
>>>> of software quality. A lack of attention to this seemingly trivial
>>>> goal shows a lack of attention to the overall quality of software.
>>>> This project will reduce warnings to zero for a popular c++
>>>> compiler,(NAME YOUR COMPILER).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Johnson, Hans J
>>>> <hans-johnson at uiowa.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ABSOLUTELY THEY MUST BE FIXED!
>>>>>
>>>>> A tremendous amount of developer energy used in maintaining code that
>>>>> has
>>>>> warnings.  The cost of software maintenance is substantially reduce when
>>>>> warnings are removed.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is my experience that warnings VERY highly correlated with real bugs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hans
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: "Vladimir S. FONOV" <vladimir.fonov at gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 2:28 PM
>>>>> To: Sean McBride <sean at rogue-research.com>
>>>>> Cc: ITK <insight-developers at itk.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Insight-developers] [ITK Community] Is dashboard hackathon
>>>>> still needed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> do we really have to fix warnings at this stage? I.e everything else
>>>>> actually compiles?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13-12-17 03:05 PM, Sean McBride wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for the MINC compiler warnings... I've fixed a bunch in my github
>>>>>> fork, Vlad can you review and merge?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://github.com/seanm/libminc/tree/develop>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've also disabled a bunch of others, because they are a long term
>>>>>> project...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>      Vladimir S. FONOV ~ vladimir.fonov <at> gmail.com
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