[Rtk-users] .dat to .mha image

Laura Trubuil laura.trubuil at mail.medecom.fr
Mon Jun 3 06:06:50 EDT 2013


Hello Mark and  hello Cyril,
Ok, I will let you know if I have more problems, but first, I will look 
at that link and do further reasearch. Thank you very much for your help!
Regards,

Laura

Le 03/06/2013 12:01, Marc Vila Oliva a écrit :
> Hello Laura,
>
> Cyril is right. What you get from Gate is just the accumulated energy on
> the detector (raw data) and you should convert it to attenuation in
> order to reconstruct your projections with FDK. Generally this means
> that you need to take the -log (check Beer-Lambert law) of the results
> on your detector, in the case that you don't need to correct for
> background noise or other parameters.
>
> With the link that Cyril provided you, I think it will be enough for you
> to keep going. If not, let us know if you need more help.
>
> Cheers,
> Marc
>
> On Mon, 2013-06-03 at 07:07 +0000, MORY, CYRIL wrote:
>> Hi Laura,
>>
>>   
>>
>> Judging from the projection image you sent, you seem to be missing a
>> crucial step.
>>
>> The area around your water cylinder is white and the balls are black.
>> This is probably what GATE generates, and it’s the raw data you would
>> obtain from a scanner. It is (more or less) the power received by each
>> pixel of the detector. Before you backproject this, you have to
>> convert it to attenuations.
>>
>> Check out the Wikipedia
>> pagehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomographic_reconstruction.Currently
>> your images represent I, and you have to extract p. Only then can you
>> hope to get something coherent from an FDK reconstruction.
>>
>>   
>>
>> I’m not a specialist of this step of the reconstruction, but some
>> people on this list probably know the details and can help you
>> further.
>>
>>   
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Cyril
>>
>>   
>>
>> De : rtk-users-bounces at openrtk.org
>> [mailto:rtk-users-bounces at openrtk.org] De la part de Laura Trubuil
>> Envoyé : lundi 27 mai 2013 15:45
>> À : rtk-users at openrtk.org
>> Objet : Re: [Rtk-users] .dat to .mha image
>>
>>
>>   
>>
>> Dear RTK-users,
>>
>> I am working on reconstruction with RTK backprojection algorithm.
>> RTK Wiki examples worked fine but now, I am trying with my own images,
>> and I obtain a result I cannot explain.
>>
>> I have 15 projections, simulated with GATE. My phantom is a water
>> cylinder, containing 4 balls of different materials.
>> I attached one of them with the mail, to give an example (the other
>> are quite similar, only the place of the balls changes).
>>
>> I generate a geometry.xml file with the command : rtksimulatedgeometry
>> -o geometry.xml -n 15 --sdd 300 --sid 150
>> and then apply rtkbackprojection with : rtkbackprojections -o
>> output.mha -g geometry.xml -r header.mhd -p.
>> I display output.mha with VTK and obtain a white cube...
>>
>> Does anybody have an idea of what I am missing? Is the number of
>> projections too small? Is it a display problem?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Laura Trubuil
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 13/05/2013 16:14, Simon Rit a écrit :
>>
>>
>>          Dear Laura,
>>          If you use rtk::FDKConeBeamReconstructionFilter, there is a weighting
>>          by the angular gap (angular distance between the previous and the next
>>          projection) so that will be a problem. If you only use the
>>          backprojection, that should not be a problem.
>>          With FDK, there are a few solutions, the simplest being to trick the
>>          algorithm by adding 2 projections with zeros at the beginning and the
>>          end of your tomosynthesis acquisition.
>>          If you have some problems with the geometry, don't hesitate to provide
>>          your Gate macros and we can try to help.
>>          Simon
>>           
>>          On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Laura Trubuil
>>          <laura.trubuil at mail.medecom.fr> wrote:
>>                  Dear Simon,
>>                  Thank you for your help.
>>                   
>>                  It is a circular cone beam CT, yes.
>>                  In fact, what I precisely do is working on tomosynthesis. I use the CT
>>                  scanner simulator of GATE as a basis for a tomosynthesis simulation. The
>>                  only differences are that the X-Ray dose is lower, and the angle is not 360°
>>                  but 40° maximum. I do not think it is a problem for RTK, is it?
>>                  First, I intend to use RTK backprojection, and then, I will try to enhance
>>                  the quality of the reconstruction by filtering techniques.
>>                   
>>                  I have already done some simulations on GATE, for small animal in a first
>>                  time (because the computation time is too long for real human chest
>>                  detectors, which are much bigger). It allows me to work on algorithms and
>>                  test reconstruction with something, for the moment! I will be glad to help
>>                  you if I can.
>>                   
>>                  I will continue studying RTK examples, I will let you know if I make some
>>                  progress. Thanks again.
>>                   
>>                  Regards,
>>                   
>>                  Laura
>>                   
>>                   
>>                  Le 07/05/2013 01:50, Simon Rit a écrit :
>>                   
>>                          Hi,
>>                          I don't know the CT simulation module of Gate so I can't help you. I
>>                          will discuss this matter with my colleagues. We are currently working
>>                          on a new CT simulation module but we definitely need to investigate
>>                          how one can reconstruct from the existing module. What is the geometry
>>                          of the scanner, is it circular cone-beam CT? It is the only geometry
>>                          that RTK can handle.
>>                          To understand how to use mhd files, you can look at other examples on
>>                          RTK wiki. We will work on your problem and I'll let you know as soon
>>                          as we have progressed but keep us informed if you make some progresses
>>                          on your side.
>>                          Regards,
>>                          Simon
>>                           
>>                          On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Laura Trubuil
>>                          <laura.trubuil at mail.medecom.fr> wrote:
>>                                  Dear Simon,
>>                                   
>>                                  Thank you for your answer.
>>                                  I  am using the CT Scanner simulation in GATE, so the output available
>>                                  are
>>                                  the ".root" and the ".dat" only.
>>                                   
>>                                  First, I simply tried to change the extension ".dat" to ".mhd" or to
>>                                  ".raw"
>>                                  but, as expected, it does not work because I need to specifiy which kind
>>                                  of
>>                                  data the file contains (the role of the header in fact...).
>>                                  Then, I tried to do something with the GateToImage Class, which contains
>>                                  a
>>                                  function called WriteMHD, but it was not a success... I did not find a
>>                                  way
>>                                  to directly obtain ".mhd" from a CT Scanner simulation from GATE. That is
>>                                  when I decided to ask the RTK users!
>>                                   
>>                                  With M. Mory's method, I am now able to open  my ".dat" files with
>>                                  ImageFileReader function from ITK, and visualize it with VTK.
>>                                   
>>                                   
>>                                  For the moment, I am trying to reconstruct slices from 15 projections
>>                                  acquired with the CT Scanner example in GATE.
>>                                  Have you got any example of reconstruction of slices from projections
>>                                  with
>>                                  RTK?
>>                                   
>>                                  I already studied the Sphere reconstruction tuto, but it does not help me
>>                                  to
>>                                  understand how I can make use of my ".mhd" files in the RTK algorithms. I
>>                                  will do further research work.
>>                                   
>>                                  Regards,
>>                                   
>>                                  Laura Trubuil
>>                                   
>>                                   
>>                                   
>>                                  Le 05/05/2013 11:20, Simon Rit a écrit :
>>                                   
>>                                          Dear Laura,
>>                                          I think that in the latest version of Gate, you should be able to
>>                                          write mhd files. hdr file format should also work in both platforms.
>>                                          What happens if you change the extension of your output files to .mhd?
>>                                          Regards,
>>                                          Simon
>>                                           
>>                                          On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 10:51 AM, MORY, CYRIL <Cyril.Mory at philips.com>
>>                                          wrote:
>>                                                  Hi Laura,
>>                                                   
>>                                                  In the .mhd and .raw format, the .raw file is a binary file of floats
>>                                                  (or
>>                                                  whatever) representing the pixel intensities, and the .mhd a simple
>>                                                  header
>>                                                  that indicates the number of dimensions, the size in pixels along each
>>                                                  dimension, ... Your .dat seems to be exactly the same as the .raw
>>                                                  You can create the .mhd header yourself, using a text editor. Here is
>>                                                  an
>>                                                  example :
>>                                                   
>>                                                  ObjectType = Image
>>                                                  NDims = 2
>>                                                  BinaryData = True
>>                                                  BinaryDataByteOrderMSB = False
>>                                                  CompressedData = False
>>                                                  TransformMatrix = 1 0 0 1
>>                                                  Offset = -190.5 -190.5
>>                                                  CenterOfRotation = 0 0
>>                                                  ElementSpacing = 3 3
>>                                                  DimSize = 128 128
>>                                                  ElementType = MET_FLOAT
>>                                                  ElementDataFile = SheppLogan.raw (try to replace this field with your
>>                                                  .dat filename)
>>                                                   
>>                                                  If I were you, I'd start by trying to adjust these parameters until you
>>                                                  manage to visualize a single projection (there are plenty of viewers
>>                                                  that
>>                                                  open mhd/raw files), and then create a header for the whole sequence
>>                                                  (NDims
>>                                                  = 3, etc ...) and concatenate the .dat binary files into a single one.
>>                                                  You
>>                                                  could use a script like the following :
>>                                                   
>>                                                  #!/bin/bash
>>                                                  # Concatenate all projections into a single raw file
>>                                                  NbProj=300
>>                                                  i=0
>>                                                  list="projection${i}.raw"
>>                                                  for i in $(seq 1 1 $(($NbProj-1)))
>>                                                  do
>>                                                            list="$list projection${i}.raw"
>>                                                  done
>>                                                  cat $list > SheppLogan.raw
>>                                                   
>>                                                  which would concatenate all files named "projection0.raw",
>>                                                  "projection1.raw", ... into "SheppLogan.raw"
>>                                                   
>>                                                   
>>                                                  -----Message d'origine-----
>>                                                  De : rtk-users-bounces at openrtk.org
>>                                                  [mailto:rtk-users-bounces at openrtk.org]
>>                                                  De la part de Laura Trubuil
>>                                                  Envoyé : jeudi 2 mai 2013 09:29
>>                                                  À : rtk-users at openrtk.org
>>                                                  Objet : [Rtk-users] .dat to .mha image
>>                                                   
>>                                                  Dear RTK users,
>>                                                   
>>                                                  I am working on GATE (from Geant4), to create projections images of
>>                                                  tomosynthesis.
>>                                                  I have projections but they are in ".dat" format (binary matrix of
>>                                                  float
>>                                                  numbers that stores the simulated tomosynthesis image and is produced
>>                                                  for
>>                                                  each time slice).
>>                                                   
>>                                                  I want to reconstruct a 3D volume, from projections, with RTK.
>>                                                  To do that, I know I must change the format of my images (for example
>>                                                  to
>>                                                  .mhd/.raw or to .mha format) but my problem is that I do not know how.
>>                                                   
>>                                                  I anyone could help...
>>                                                   
>>                                                  Regards,
>>                                                   
>>                                                  Laura
>>                                                   
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