[vtkusers] Any plan to update the books?

Mon Mar 26 11:50:32 EDT 2018

Yes, you've done a great job with all the examples, so the example updates in the book would be mostly editing work.

Andras

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From: Bill Lorensen <bill.lorensen at gmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 11:48 AM
To: Berk Geveci <berk.geveci at kitware.com>
Cc: Andras Lasso <lasso at queensu.ca>; vtkusers at vtk.org
Subject: Re: [vtkusers] Any plan to update the books?

Andras,

All of the examples in the VTK Book have been updated and exist here:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Florensen.github.io%2FVTKExamples%2Fsite%2FVTKBookFigures%2F&data=02%7C01%7Classo%40queensu.ca%7C3087ad71c9bd401bf10608d59330fd5c%7Cd61ecb3b38b142d582c4efb2838b925c%7C1%7C0%7C636576760974370283&sdata=zcEbtW9WleBNRqmVMekBvrLzkNb071iNrHZehmLrTKY%3D&reserved=0
Also, Andrew Maclean has provided python versions of the examples.

We also update the IO Formats file here:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Florensen.github.io%2FVTKExamples%2Fsite%2FVTKFileFormats%2F&data=02%7C01%7Classo%40queensu.ca%7C3087ad71c9bd401bf10608d59330fd5c%7Cd61ecb3b38b142d582c4efb2838b925c%7C1%7C0%7C636576760974370283&sdata=7J%2FYEFzxmZ%2FfK8RFCib0bCV%2BxrDpr3qYg5Lg%2BKPzagw%3D&reserved=0

We have a project on researchgate.net that provides updates:
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fproject%2FVTK-Examples&data=02%7C01%7Classo%40queensu.ca%7C3087ad71c9bd401bf10608d59330fd5c%7Cd61ecb3b38b142d582c4efb2838b925c%7C1%7C0%7C636576760974370283&sdata=a5KghQtdp%2F3AcHPHDtUi2oWK0Y8Ul%2Be9bJ%2BJZKsVWvE%3D&reserved=0

Bill

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 7:56 AM, Berk Geveci <berk.geveci at kitware.com> wrote:
> Just a quick update on this guys. We would love to provide editable 
> versions of both books. The challenge is that they are in old 
> Framemaker format and we have not had the time to focus on finding a 
> way to generate some form of editable content from them. I don't 
> believe exporting to another format from Framemaker is a good option. 
> So we have contemplating scraping the PDF for content and generating 
> all new images (which Bill Lorensen did to a great extent). Will 
> Schroeder has been contemplating doing a new version that is 
> interactive on the Web also. If there are folks out there with 
> concrete ideas on how to move forward, we would be happy to have everyone engaged in finding a way forward.
>
> I have some ideas of my own:
>
> * Combine contents to create one book that is a hybrid textbook / 
> user's guide, more focused on teaching visualization as covered by VTK
> * Generate a separate guide with lots of examples that can be 
> translated to various languages that VTK supports leveraging content 
> from the book as well as VTK examples online. This could be an online thing.
>
> Best,
> -berk
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 10:49 AM, Andras Lasso <lasso at queensu.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, the VTK textbook is great and still up-to-date, except specific 
>> source code examples. If it was made available in editable form then 
>> I’m sure there would be volunteers to update the examples (convert 
>> Tcl to Python and update according to VTK API), and maybe describe 
>> some notable core changes (pipeline changes, etc).
>>
>>
>>
>> I have never found the VTK User’s Guide particularly suitable for a 
>> printed book format. At user guide level online resources (examples, 
>> API documentation, etc.) are easier to use, because you can search 
>> better, they are hyperlinked, you can copy-paste, etc. Online 
>> materials are also easier to keep up-to-date.
>>
>>
>>
>> Andras
>>
>>
>>
>> From: vtkusers <vtkusers-bounces at vtk.org> On Behalf Of David E 
>> DeMarle
>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 10:39 AM
>> To: Jesse Kinross-Smith <Jesse.Kinross-Smith at bentley.com>
>> Cc: vtkusers at vtk.org
>> Subject: Re: [vtkusers] Any plan to update the books?
>>
>>
>>
>> We don't have any near term plans for an update.
>>
>>
>>
>> The books certainly do need a refresh, including a math reformat for 
>> the free online versions, however just about of the techniques 
>> described in them are still valid.
>>
>>
>>
>> Most of the code is still valid, with the important exception of a 
>> few places in need of  version 5->6 changes. For those refer to
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
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>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:42 AM, Jesse Kinross-Smith 
>> <Jesse.Kinross-Smith at bentley.com> wrote:
>>
>> Are there any plans to update these books at all?
>>
>> I’d love to get some books to help me learn the ins and outs of VTK 
>> for the office, but anything over 5 years old in this industry is 
>> usually pretty obsolete I’ve found.
>>
>>
>>
>> Visualization Toolkit: An Object-Oriented Approach to 3D Graphics, 
>> 4th Edition - December 1, 2006
>>
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>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
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>> VTK User's Guide Paperback – 11th Ed. March 18, 2010
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