[vtkusers] Somebody can help me, please.
Yamill Campos Pérez
yamillc at uclv.edu.cu
Thu Dec 28 12:12:21 EST 2006
Hello, Somebody can help me. How can I use Packaging VTK in Borland Delph 7?.
Regards,
Yamill
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Asunto: vtkusers Digest, Vol 32, Issue 31
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Packaging vtk: patents (Axel Thimm)
2. Re: Re: Packaging vtk: patents (Ed Hill)
3. RE: Re: Packaging vtk: patents (Wylie, Brian)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:54:41 +0100
From: Axel Thimm <Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net>
Subject: [vtkusers] Re: Packaging vtk: patents
To: Ken Martin <ken.martin at kitware.com>, kitware at kitware.com,
Carl.Horton at med.ge.com
Cc: vtkusers at vtk.org
Message-ID: <20061228135441.GC31988 at neu.nirvana>
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On Tue, Sep 12, 2006 at 01:08:30PM -0400, Ken Martin wrote:
> > > an important issue with packaging and offering vtk packages in some
> > > countries is whether it contains any patented code. I've read about
> > > expired patents and algorithms removed due to not yet expired
> > > patents, but what about the mpeg2 encoding support?
> > >
> > > Doesn't this include patented software/algrothms that the MPEGLA
> > > requires loyalities for?
> > >
> > > If yes, could it perhaps be shipped seperately, so source and binary
> > > packages can be completely patent-free?
> >
> > could someone please comment on the patent issues? mpeg and otherwise?
>
> I don't believe mpeg code should ever have been moved into VTK. Our policy
> as of a couple years ago has been to not put patented code into VTK but have
> them be optional third party libraries that you must download separately.
> Clearly that is not the case any more :(
you are referring to the mpeg part, which can still be removed for
packaging purposes (and indeed in upcoming vtk releases it would be
nice to keep it as a separate tarball).
But what about the other patents regarding some algorithms like
Marching Cubes and friends? There is a FAQ entry on this:
http://www.vtk.org/Wiki/VTK_FAQ#What_is_the_deal_with_the_patents
But it refers to vtk4 and mentions the Patented subfolder which does
not exist anymore. Have all these patented algorithms either
o expired
o been replaced by non-patented equivalents
o are waived for vtk use?
IANAL, but probably the patents held by Kitware are not a problem as
they are releasing the software under an open source license
themselves. But what about patents by the General Electric Company?
Please help me get the patent issue resolved so vtk can become part of
Fedora. Thanks!
--
Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:29:48 -0500
From: Ed Hill <ed at eh3.com>
Subject: Re: [vtkusers] Re: Packaging vtk: patents
To: Axel Thimm <Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net>
Cc: Ken Martin <ken.martin at kitware.com>, kitware at kitware.com,
vtkusers at vtk.org, Carl.Horton at med.ge.com
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:54:41 +0100 Axel Thimm <Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net>
wrote:
> you are referring to the mpeg part, which can still be removed for
> packaging purposes (and indeed in upcoming vtk releases it would be
> nice to keep it as a separate tarball).
>
> But what about the other patents regarding some algorithms like
> Marching Cubes and friends? There is a FAQ entry on this:
>
> http://www.vtk.org/Wiki/VTK_FAQ#What_is_the_deal_with_the_patents
>
> But it refers to vtk4 and mentions the Patented subfolder which does
> not exist anymore. Have all these patented algorithms either
>
> o expired
> o been replaced by non-patented equivalents
> o are waived for vtk use?
>
> IANAL, but probably the patents held by Kitware are not a problem as
> they are releasing the software under an open source license
> themselves. But what about patents by the General Electric Company?
>
> Please help me get the patent issue resolved so vtk can become part of
> Fedora. Thanks!
Hi folks,
As a Fedora user and software developer I earnestly hope that VTK can
(in some form--perhaps with some parts omitted?) be included with the
Fedora distribution. Convenient VTK RPMs will make it _MUCH_ easier
for me and other developers to learn about, create, and distribute
applications that use VTK.
And, even if VTK cannot be (re-)distributed by the Fedora Project, it
would still be nice to see an updated VTK FAQ entry that better
explains the current patent situation.
Many thanks to the VTK developers and to Axel -- and best wishes for
the New Year!
Ed
ps - It would be so nice to see VTK included in Fedora in 2007.
I would love to introduce new users and developers to VTK
starting with a single simple command such as:
yum install 'vtk*'
which would automatically [auto-magically? :-)] install all
the bits they need to get started with it on their Linux
machines.
--
Edward H. Hill III, PhD | ed at eh3.com | http://eh3.com/
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 09:45:03 -0700
From: "Wylie, Brian" <bnwylie at sandia.gov>
Subject: RE: [vtkusers] Re: Packaging vtk: patents
To: "Ed Hill" <ed at eh3.com>, "Axel Thimm" <Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net>
Cc: vtkusers at vtk.org, Carl.Horton at med.ge.com
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All,
Kitware will certainly chime in here... I think hardly anyone is around
(holiday vacations and all...) but this should be no problem. The only
issue (to my knowledge) is the mpeg2 writer, everything else in VTK
should have no restrictions/patents/bad licenses etc...
I agree, having VTK as part of the Fedora distribution would be super
duper.. :)
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Sandia National Laboratories
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: vtkusers-bounces+bnwylie=sandia.gov at vtk.org
> [mailto:vtkusers-bounces+bnwylie=sandia.gov at vtk.org] On
> Behalf Of Ed Hill
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 9:30 AM
> To: Axel Thimm
> Cc: Ken Martin; kitware at kitware.com; vtkusers at vtk.org;
> Carl.Horton at med.ge.com
> Subject: Re: [vtkusers] Re: Packaging vtk: patents
>
> On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:54:41 +0100 Axel Thimm <Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net>
> wrote:
> > you are referring to the mpeg part, which can still be removed for
> > packaging purposes (and indeed in upcoming vtk releases it would be
> > nice to keep it as a separate tarball).
> >
> > But what about the other patents regarding some algorithms like
> > Marching Cubes and friends? There is a FAQ entry on this:
> >
> > http://www.vtk.org/Wiki/VTK_FAQ#What_is_the_deal_with_the_patents
> >
> > But it refers to vtk4 and mentions the Patented subfolder
> which does
> > not exist anymore. Have all these patented algorithms either
> >
> > o expired
> > o been replaced by non-patented equivalents o are waived
> for vtk use?
> >
> > IANAL, but probably the patents held by Kitware are not a
> problem as
> > they are releasing the software under an open source license
> > themselves. But what about patents by the General Electric Company?
> >
> > Please help me get the patent issue resolved so vtk can
> become part of
> > Fedora. Thanks!
>
>
> Hi folks,
>
> As a Fedora user and software developer I earnestly hope that
> VTK can (in some form--perhaps with some parts omitted?) be
> included with the Fedora distribution. Convenient VTK RPMs
> will make it _MUCH_ easier for me and other developers to
> learn about, create, and distribute applications that use VTK.
>
> And, even if VTK cannot be (re-)distributed by the Fedora
> Project, it would still be nice to see an updated VTK FAQ
> entry that better explains the current patent situation.
>
> Many thanks to the VTK developers and to Axel -- and best
> wishes for the New Year!
>
> Ed
>
> ps - It would be so nice to see VTK included in Fedora in 2007.
> I would love to introduce new users and developers to VTK
> starting with a single simple command such as:
>
> yum install 'vtk*'
>
> which would automatically [auto-magically? :-)] install all
> the bits they need to get started with it on their Linux
> machines.
>
>
> --
> Edward H. Hill III, PhD | ed at eh3.com | http://eh3.com/
>
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