Newbee need help "Getting Started"

[Casteel, Don]

I've checked into Tcl, it looks to me like I still need a compiler to get
Tcl running? The only compiler I have is for Java.
I'm having trouble figuring out how to get started.
 
>From the message below, with the precompiled binaries I should be able to
write a script and run VTK, is this correct?
Do I have to use Tcl, Java, or Python to write scripts, or can I write
scripts in a text editor? 
 
Does anyone know of a good "How To" site? 
 
I have experience with Object Oriented programming, but need to know the
basics of getting VTK set up and writing scripts.
 
Thanks in advance
Don Casteel 

Manufacturing Engineer 
TEXTRON Automotive Company -- Athens Operations 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kitware [mailto:kitware at kitware.com]
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 9:07 AM
To: dcasteel at tac.textron.com
Subject: Re: VTK what is it?


Hi Don-

At 11:50 AM 1/30/00 -0500, you wrote:


Please reply to my work e-mail address: dcasteel at tac.textron.com, or
contact me directly at (423)744-1109

I've been looking over the VTK web site, and am extreemly interested in
your products for a specific application. A few things aren't clear
however.

>From what I see VTK is a graphical/scientific API. Assuming this is
correct, does it come with the required compilers?


You provide the compiler, or if you download the precompiled binaries,
you can use Tcl, Java, or Python and write "interpreted" scripts.




I see there are Java libraries, I already know a little Java & Java3d,
but building my application from scratch is a daunting task. Will VTK
simplify development?


VTK will simplify development in that the functionality for graphics
and visualization data processing is done for you. You still have to
code the GUI, etc.




I need a particle system based fluid simulation package similar to
"RealFlow" ( http://www.realflow.com/ <http://www.realflow.com/>  ).
RealFlow has some limitations
which at this point do not allow it to work for what I need. My
application requires a powerful customizable particle system, would I
have to build it from scratch, or does VTK contain most of what I'd
need?


You'd probably have to do a fair amount of work, VTK supports points
but probably not in the way that particle systems need. On the other hand, 
you've got the source and we are always looking for contributions.




Basically I am curious if using VTK means I have to learn a whole new
programming language, or if I can accomplish my objectives with some
simple limited programming?


Being an OO system, learning VTK means learning about the objects and 
what you can do with them - there's no getting around that. The VTK objects
are
fairly high level and there are 500 examples distributed with the code, so
it's
very powerful and quick to learn.

Here's some products and other info about vtk.

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