[vtk-developers] An interesting statistic about VTK

Fri May 8 09:53:32 EDT 2015

We decided to keep the Tcl wrapping going for a while longer in a separate
thread a while ago. It is really not a burden on us to do it, as long as we
are not asked to add more features. I expect that this will come up again
in a few years and the community may be ready to let go then.

-berk

On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Will Schroeder <will.schroeder at kitware.com>
wrote:

> That's okay as long as maintaining these Tcl scripts and associated
> infrastructure is not an undue burden. After cleaning out my attic this
> winter I am all for getting rid of junk :-)
>
> W
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Bill Lorensen <bill.lorensen at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I agree with Dave C. Just turn TCL wrapping off on most platforms. Turn
>> it on for a couple.
>> On May 8, 2015 9:21 AM, "David Cole via vtk-developers" <
>> vtk-developers at vtk.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On the other hand, the tests are "not even there" if you simply turn
>>> off TCL wrapping... So why bother removing them? They're a useful
>>> reference for those who turn on TCL wrapping.
>>>
>>> If TCL wrapping is supported, there should be some tests/examples in TCL.
>>>
>>> I would say if you want to get rid of them, get rid of TCL wrapping
>>> entirely. But if you're not willing to go all the way like that, leave
>>> the tests for the poor souls stuck using TCL.
>>>
>>> Just an alternate opinion to consider. Please don't give it too much
>>> weight, as I have personally totally been in favor of getting rid of
>>> TCL entirely since 2005.
>>>
>>>
>>> David C.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Berk Geveci <berk.geveci at kitware.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Seconded.
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 5:50 AM, Will Schroeder <
>>> will.schroeder at kitware.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Nice work Andrew!
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm all for eliminating duplicates, especially if it means people can
>>> test
>>> >> more and faster, although if we are going to retain Tcl for the long
>>> haul we
>>> >> do have to continue to test Tcl language bindings. Personally I have
>>> not
>>> >> used Tcl for several years now.....
>>> >>
>>> >> W
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 2:00 AM, Andrew Maclean <
>>> andrew.amaclean at gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi All,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Look at this for VTK:
>>> >>> ----------------------------------------
>>> >>> Total number of Cxx tests :   1053
>>> >>> Total number of Python tests :    537
>>> >>> Total number of TCL tests :    443
>>> >>> Total number of tests :   2033
>>> >>> ----------------------------------------
>>> >>> Tests in TCL but not in Python or Cxx.
>>> >>> Common/Core/Testing/Tcl
>>> >>> TestArrays
>>> >>> TestString
>>> >>> otherInterp
>>> >>> otherPrint
>>> >>> Filters/Core/Testing/Tcl
>>> >>> probe
>>> >>> Filters/Sources/Testing/Tcl
>>> >>> squadViewer
>>> >>> Rendering/Tk/Testing/Tcl
>>> >>> TestTextActor3D
>>> >>> cursor3D
>>> >>> ----------------------------------------
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Some time ago we spent a lot of time converting the Tcl tests to
>>> Python
>>> >>> either automatically or by hand, so now these 8 tests are the only
>>> ones not
>>> >>> in Python or TCL. Although Common/Core/Testing/Python/TestStrings.py
>>> vastly
>>> >>> extends the TCL version so really there are just 7 tests not tested
>>> by
>>> >>> either Python or Cxx.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Is it time to disable the duplicate 436 TCL tests?
>>> >>> The advantage here is that it may speed up the testing times and
>>> these
>>> >>> 436 tests are redundant anyway.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Note: I am NOT advocating removing the tests as there may be people
>>> still
>>> >>> using TCL and these may be a useful reference for them.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I wrote a python script to do this investigation. If people think it
>>> is
>>> >>> useful, I will clean it up and put it into VTK. The code currently
>>> only
>>> >>> looks at Testing/Cxx, Testing/Python, Testing/Tcl in the VTK tree, so
>>> >>> folders below these are not looked at.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Regards
>>> >>>    Andrew
>>> >>>
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