[vtk-developers] [vtkusers] vtk-developers Digest, Vol 95, Issue 58

Andrew Maclean andrew.amaclean at gmail.com
Thu Mar 29 19:46:32 EDT 2012


Hi Bill,

I have converted all the *.cxx examples.

Regards
   Andrew

On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Andrew Maclean
<andrew.amaclean at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Bill,
>
> I think this would be a good idea. I am all for keeping the number of
> locations for examples to a minimum. Do we keep the datasets there too?
> Namely Data.tgz, Frog.tgz, Full-Head.tgz ad PineRoot.tgz. In this day and
> age they are not big datasets and don't change.
>
> If no one has any objections could you please move the VTKTextbook
> directory there? Once this is done I can commit the changes I have made
> already.
>
> Regards
>    Andrew
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Bill Lorensen <bill.lorensen at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Justin,
>>
>> The VTK WIki Examples: http://www.vtk.org/Wiki/VTK/Examples could use
>> more python examples. These examples are scraped every night and kept
>> in a git repository.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Justin Weber <onlyjus at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > All,
>> >
>> > I would be willing to help with the python examples. Converting C++ to
>> > python isn't that bad. Also, along the lines of python, it would be
>> great if
>> > examples could be written for conversions between numpy arrays and vtk
>> > arrays, as well as taking 3D numpy arrays and converting them into
>> > structured grids or data sets.
>> >
>> > Justin
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Andrew Maclean <
>> andrew.amaclean at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Marcus,
>> >>    This is a good way forward.
>> >>
>> >> With respect to updating the books, I agree with you in that we
>> >> should update the next editions of the books to focus primarily on the
>> C++
>> >> API, and Python as the preferred wrapped language.
>> >> I am happy to help converting the C++ examples in the book to the newer
>> >> version of VTK. I have had a quick look and the conversion is pretty
>> >> straightforward and I have already completed Cone and Cone2. I will
>> probably
>> >> finish the rest in a few hours.
>> >>    I will be also  glad to help with the conversion of TCL to Python.
>> >>
>> >> If you guys (Kitware) set up a repository with the original code and
>> >> datasets then I can start putting them up. At least then we will have
>> a good
>> >> working base.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >>    Andrew
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >>> From: "Marcus D. Hanwell" <marcus.hanwell at kitware.com>
>> >>> To: Wes Turner <wes.turner at kitware.com>
>> >>> Cc: VTK Developers <vtk-developers at vtk.org>, vtkusers <
>> vtkusers at vtk.org>,
>> >>> Will Schroeder <will.schroeder at kitware.com>, Darshan Pai
>> >>> <darshanpai at gmail.com>
>> >>> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 19:00:33 -0400
>> >>> Subject: Re: [vtk-developers] [vtkusers] Modularization, Context2D and
>> >>> Tcl
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> I didn't intend to start a thread debating the removal of Tcl. My take
>> >>> on the situation is that there is a fair bit of legacy code out there
>> >>> using it, including the VTK books and several projects (primarily in
>> >>> the medical field). In the modularized VTK tree I have the Tcl
>> >>> wrapping working (mostly at least - more tests need to be brought in),
>> >>> and wrapping large parts of the API correctly that had thus far not
>> >>> been brought in properly.
>> >>>
>> >>> I think we should mark the Tcl wrapped code as deprecated, 'heirloom'
>> >>> or whatever the right term is to indicate to our users that we do not
>> >>> have plans to significantly extend them. At this stage, with the work
>> >>> already present to support automatically wrapping and the few
>> >>> problematic modules mapped to similar names, I think we should keep
>> >>> them available for compilation even if they are superseded by Python
>> >>> as the default wrapped language.
>> >>>
>> >>> I think we should update the next editions of the books to focus
>> >>> primarily on the C++ API, and Python as the preferred wrapped
>> >>> language. Having Tcl and Java examples in there would still be
>> >>> appropriate in my opinion. I don't have any time to do this, but it
>> >>> seems like there are some people with time and motivation to help with
>> >>> that. It would be great to hear what the community at large thinks.
>> >>> Code will probably need to be updated with the correct module names,
>> >>> we may be able to do a little work there to import the correct new
>> >>> modules for the old (and this would also likely help in porting Python
>> >>> code which would have the exact same issue).
>> >>>
>> >>> My $0.10 on the issue. I will continue watching the mailing lists with
>> >>> interest, and of course welcome further input.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>
>> >>> Marcus
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Wes Turner <wes.turner at kitware.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > That is not my understanding.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > - Wes
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Darshan Pai <darshanpai at gmail.com>
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> When you say remove TCL, there will still be a switch like USE_TCL
>> ,
>> >>> >> so
>> >>> >> that someone who wants to include it in the project can still use
>> it ?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Regards
>> >>> >> Darshan
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Wes Turner <
>> wes.turner at kitware.com>
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> +1 on seeking input.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> The danger of course, is that people who are merrily using tcl
>> >>> >>> without
>> >>> >>> problems may not be subscribed to the mailing lists and we may not
>> >>> >>> find out
>> >>> >>> until after we make the change and everything breaks.  Still I
>> think
>> >>> >>> that is
>> >>> >>> the correct way to go and the best that we can do.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> - Wes
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Aashish Chaudhary
>> >>> >>> <aashish.chaudhary at kitware.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> In another email to Wes, I suggested the same. I have cc'd
>> vtkuser's
>> >>> >>>> mailing list as well ( to provide background on the topic, may be
>> >>> >>>> better to
>> >>> >>>> start a new thread in the vtkusers mailing list).
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:55 AM, Bill Lorensen
>> >>> >>>> <bill.lorensen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> I agree with Will. We should ask the community about the impact
>> of
>> >>> >>>>> a
>> >>> >>>>> VTK without tcl.
>> >>> >>>>>
>> >>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Will Schroeder
>> >>> >>>>> <will.schroeder at kitware.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>> > This may be a bigger issue than just the ARB, I'm wondering
>> if we
>> >>> >>>>> > should ask
>> >>> >>>>> > the question across the broader community, and/or create an
>> >>> >>>>> > explicit
>> >>> >>>>> > transition plan.
>> >>> >>>>> > W
>> >>> >>>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Wes Turner
>> >>> >>>>> > <wes.turner at kitware.com>
>> >>> >>>>> > wrote:
>> >>> >>>>> >>
>> >>> >>>>> >> Changing a few interfaces is manageable.  Removing support
>> for
>> >>> >>>>> >> the
>> >>> >>>>> >> entire
>> >>> >>>>> >> GUI system is much more catastrophic.  If this were a
>> democracy
>> >>> >>>>> >> I
>> >>> >>>>> >> would
>> >>> >>>>> >> stage a filibuster and force a super-majority.  :-)
>> >>> >>>>> >>
>> >>> >>>>> >> As it is, I will happily abide by any decision by the ARB,
>> but I
>> >>> >>>>> >> strongly
>> >>> >>>>> >> urge that they make an explicit decision and announce it,
>> rather
>> >>> >>>>> >> than just
>> >>> >>>>> >> do it by default or allow support to erode away.
>> >>> >>>>> >>
>> >>> >>>>> >> - Wes
>> >>> >>>>> >>
>> >>> >>>>> >>
>> >>> >>>>> >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 7:51 AM, David Cole
>> >>> >>>>> >> <david.cole at kitware.com>
>> >>> >>>>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>> >>>>> >>> I'm not saying that applications like this shouldn't
>> upgrade.
>> >>> >>>>> >>> On
>> >>> >>>>> >>> the
>> >>> >>>>> >>> contrary, I think they should, and I think they should do it
>> >>> >>>>> >>> soon,
>> >>> >>>>> >>> and give
>> >>> >>>>> >>> us feedback on the new layout of modular VTK, and on the
>> rest
>> >>> >>>>> >>> of
>> >>> >>>>> >>> the changes
>> >>> >>>>> >>> (legacy code removal), ... other changes?
>> >>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>> >>>>> >>> I am saying we're making a bunch of changes anyhow, and
>> >>> >>>>> >>> applications are
>> >>> >>>>> >>> going to have to make lots of changes to adapt to them
>> >>> >>>>> >>> anyhow...
>> >>> >>>>> >>> and because
>> >>> >>>>> >>> of this, now is the perfect opportunity to make breaking
>> >>> >>>>> >>> changes,
>> >>> >>>>> >>> so that
>> >>> >>>>> >>> apps that need to adapt only need to do it once, and then we
>> >>> >>>>> >>> position VTK
>> >>> >>>>> >>> for better things in the future. (Specifically, a C++
>> namespace
>> >>> >>>>> >>> and
>> >>> >>>>> >>> potential for more modern wrapped languages.)
>> >>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>> >>>>> >>> Tcl wrapping, even if removed from VTK itself, could be
>> done in
>> >>> >>>>> >>> a
>> >>> >>>>> >>> separate project, from the outside, after the fact. That's
>> how
>> >>> >>>>> >>> ActiViz works
>> >>> >>>>> >>> for C# wrapping: which is another thing that will have to
>> adapt
>> >>> >>>>> >>> to
>> >>> >>>>> >>> this new
>> >>> >>>>> >>> VTK if it wants to survive. To the best of my knowledge,
>> nobody
>> >>> >>>>> >>> has
>> >>> >>>>> >>> spent
>> >>> >>>>> >>> any effort making sure ActiViz is still going to work
>> >>> >>>>> >>> flawlessly
>> >>> >>>>> >>> with the
>> >>> >>>>> >>> new VTK. That'll be something for somebody's to do list
>> after
>> >>> >>>>> >>> the
>> >>> >>>>> >>> dust
>> >>> >>>>> >>> settles here.
>> >>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>> >>>>> >>> This is the one chance we'll have in the next decade to
>> break
>> >>> >>>>> >>> backwards
>> >>> >>>>> >>> compatibility: we should take it while we have it.
>> >>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>> >>>>> >>> David C.
>> >>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>> >>>>> >>> On Mar 28, 2012, at 6:09 AM, Karthik Krishnan
>> >>> >>>>> >>> <karthik.krishnan at kitware.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>> >>>>> >>> I agree with Wes. Again, not to be too vocal....
>> >>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>> >>>>> >>> I don't vote for  vtk3DWidget being renamed. Despite it
>> being
>> >>> >>>>> >>> an
>> >>> >>>>> >>> old
>> >>> >>>>> >>> generation widgets that we don't recommend folks derive
>> from,
>> >>> >>>>> >>> but
>> >>> >>>>> >>> the fact
>> >>> >>>>> >>> remains that there are a few widgets in VTK that derive from
>> >>> >>>>> >>> it.
>> >>> >>>>> >>> There are a
>> >>> >>>>> >>> lot of widgets in Slicer (<20) and VolView (>10) that derive
>> >>> >>>>> >>> from
>> >>> >>>>> >>> it. These
>> >>> >>>>> >>> are examples from just 2 applications.
>> >>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>> >>>>> >>> I don't support Tcl wrapping being dropped. There are still
>> a
>> >>> >>>>> >>> lot
>> >>> >>>>> >>> of apps
>> >>> >>>>> >>> under active development out there relying on VTK being
>> >>> >>>>> >>> wrappable
>> >>> >>>>> >>> from Tcl
>> >>> >>>>> >>> (BioImageSuite, VolView, SCIRun, MIPS to name a few). It
>> hasn't
>> >>> >>>>> >>> been long
>> >>> >>>>> >>> since Slicer made the switch either.
>> >>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>> >>>>> >>> These are all large applications, with a large user base and
>> >>> >>>>> >>> important
>> >>> >>>>> >>> customers of VTK. Don't you think a stand that: "If these
>> >>> >>>>> >>> applications want
>> >>> >>>>> >>> to continue using VTK, they shouldn't upgrade" is a bit
>> harsh.
>> >>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>> >>>>> >>> thx
>> >>> >>>>> >>> --
>> >>> >>>>> >>> karthik
>> >>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>> >>>>> >>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 1:47 AM, David E DeMarle
>> >>> >>>>> >>> <dave.demarle at kitware.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> And I _will_ add text to the download page to make it clear
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> what
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> that
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> binary is because you are entirely right that it shouldn't
>> be
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> the
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> first thing newbies try.
>> >>> >>>>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> David E DeMarle
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> Kitware, Inc.
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> R&D Engineer
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> 21 Corporate Drive
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> Clifton Park, NY 12065-8662
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> Phone: 518-881-4909
>> >>> >>>>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 4:12 PM, David E DeMarle
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> <dave.demarle at kitware.com> wrote:
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > That is an old school 32bit windows tcl interpreter with
>> the
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > tcl
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > wrapped vtk libs preloaded. Use it by typing in vtk tcl
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > scripts
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > there,
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > or just pass tcl scripts as filenames to that executable
>> to
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > run
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > them
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > without the shell. (Back when I was a young lad, and when
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > Will
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > and
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > Bill were still old men, that was the _easy_ way to learn
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > VTK.
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > Ah
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > those were the days, even if we did have to walk five
>> miles
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > in
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > the
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > snow to get to grad school.)
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > My plan for this release is to keep it the same as
>> before. I
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > hope to
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > find the time to make and post the vtkpython equivalent
>> of
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > that
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > executable for mac, linux and windows, but I am not
>> going to
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > hold up
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > the release release for them.
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > For 6.0 we at least want the python exes, will probably
>> drop
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > the
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > tcl
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > exe, and will try to make a proper SDK so that you don't
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > need to
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > compile vtk to make c++ apps that use it.
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > David E DeMarle
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > Kitware, Inc.
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > R&D Engineer
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > 21 Corporate Drive
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > Clifton Park, NY 12065-8662
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > Phone: 518-881-4909
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 3:45 PM, David Doria
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > <daviddoria at gmail.com>
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> > wrote:
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> On a related note, every Windows user I have suggested
>> VTK
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> to
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> has
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> gone
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> to this page:
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> http://vtk.org/VTK/resources/software.html#latest2
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >>
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> and been extremely confused about what they get with the
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> "Windows
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> (Installer) : vtk-5.8.0-win32-x86.exe". I just
>> downloaded
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> and
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> installed it on a Windows machine, and when I run "VTK"
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> from
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> the
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> start
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> menu (the only thing that appears to be an option), I
>> get a
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> blank
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> terminal window and a blank gray widget with no further
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> instructions/explanation - indeed very confusing!
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >>
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> My understanding is that this is some sort of TCL-only
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> binary
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> package?
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> My suggestion would be to remove this from the download
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> page
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> entirely,
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> or at least bury it so it is not the first thing you see
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> and so
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> it
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> doesn't look like what you should download as a new
>> user.
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> It
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> should
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> be
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> immediately clear that VTK is intended to be used as a
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> library,
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> not a
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> standalone application.
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >>
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> David
>> >>> >>>>> >>>> >> _______________________________________________
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>> >>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>> >>>>> >>> --
>> >>> >>>>> >>> --
>> >>> >>>>> >>> karthik
>> >>> >>>>> >>>
>> >>> >>>>> >>>
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>> >>> >>>>> >>
>> >>> >>>>> >>
>> >>> >>>>> >> --
>> >>> >>>>> >> Wesley D. Turner, Ph.D.
>> >>> >>>>> >> Kitware, Inc.
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>> >>> >>>>> > --
>> >>> >>>>> > William J. Schroeder, PhD
>> >>> >>>>> > Kitware, Inc.
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>> >>> >>>>> > Clifton Park, NY 12065
>> >>> >>>>> > will.schroeder at kitware.com
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>> >>> >>>> --
>> >>> >>>> | Aashish Chaudhary
>> >>> >>>> | R&D Engineer
>> >>> >>>> | Kitware Inc.
>> >>> >>>> | www.kitware.com
>> >>> >>>>
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>> >>> >>> Kitware, Inc.
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>> >>> >>> Clifton Park, NY 12065-8662
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>> >>> >>>
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>> >>> > Kitware, Inc.
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>> >>> > Clifton Park, NY 12065-8662
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>> >>> >
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>> >>
>> >> ___________________________________________
>> >>
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