[Rtk-users] Fwd: High pixel/voxel values in SART
Cyril Mory
cyril.mory at creatis.insa-lyon.fr
Wed Feb 21 07:38:26 EST 2018
Hi Chao,
Indeed, you identified the problem quite well. That division is required
from the maths of SART, but it brings its set of problems. To make a
long story short, I don't know of any best practice in order to solve
this problem. My suggestions:
- increasing the threshold to the size of a few voxels could do the
trick. We've never tried it, and I'm curious about the result
- increasing the size of your volume, if you can, and cropping it in the
end, is also a good idea, and could work, but it would increase the
memory and time requirements, so I'd try it only if the rest fails
- the theoretical origin of these artifacts is that in SART, projections
are back-projected one by one instead of all together, so when its turn
comes, each projection can have a strong influence on the volume. Try
the --nprojspersubset argument. I've explained its role in details in an
earlier email,
https://public.kitware.com/pipermail/rtk-users/2017-July/010470.html,
but the email doesn't display correctly, so I'm copy-pasting it below
between <<<<<< >>>>>>>.
- use conjugate gradient instead, removing the lambda and increasing the
number of iterations (at least 30). CG requires more iterations, but
each iteration is shorter, and it can run fully on GPU (switch --cudacg
on if your GPU has enough memory, off otherwise).
Please keep us posted with the results of your experiments,
Cyril
<<<<<<
Hi Lotte,
I'm on vacation, with very limited access to the Internet, so I can't
look at your SIRT result, but I can answer your question on SART, SIRT
and CG : all of those (as well as ART, and another method called
OS-SART) minimize the same cost function, which only consists of a
least-squares data-attachment term, i.e. || R f - p ||^2, with f the
sought volume, p the projections and R the forward projection, but with
different algorithms :
- SIRT does a simple gradient descent. Since the gradient of the cost
function is 2 R* ( R f - p ), with R* the transpose of R, i.e. the back
projection, this means that at each iteration, the algorithm needs one
forward and one back projection from ALL angles, and one "update" of the
volume
- ART, SART and OS-SART all use the same strategy: they split the cost
function into smaller bits (individual rays for ART, individual
projections for SART, sets of several projections for OS-SART, so ART
splits the most, and SART the least), and alternately minimize the cost
for each bit. We count one iteration when each of the smaller bits has
triggered an "update" of the volume. This means that, per iteration, the
smaller you split, the more updates of the volume the algorithm
performs, so the faster (in terms of number of iterations) you get to
convergence. Obviously it does have a dangerous drawback: if data is
inconsistent (noise, scatter, truncation, ...), such strategies may not
converge
- Conjugate gradient minimizes the same cost function, without splitting
it (so like SIRT), but using the conjugate gradient algorithm, which
converges faster than a simple gradient descent, for two reasons :
first, the step size is calculated analytically at each iteration and is
optimal, and second, the descent direction is a combination of the
gradient at the current iteration and the descent direction at the
previous iteration (a "conjugate" direction, thus the algorithm's name)
Hope it helps,
Cyril
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On 21/02/2018 12:57, Chao Wu wrote:
> L.S.,
>
> I was working on FDK in the past and interative reconstruction methods
> are still new to me.
> I understand the concept of iteratvie methods but are not aware of
> technical details in implementation.
>
> Recently I am trying SART but got streak artefacts in reconstructed
> slices, as well as dots with very high value (both negative and
> positive) at corners of slices.
> When I checked intermediate images in the pipleline I found that those
> are introduced in itk::DivideOrZeroOutImageFilter.
> You can see from the attached picture: the left half shows the output
> of rtk::RayBoxIntersectionImageFilter and the right half the output of
> itk::DivideOrZeroOutImageFilter, both during processing of the first
> projection in the first iteration.
> Apparently, although it contains the whole object, my volume is
> relatively small compared to the size of the detector images.
> Then the rays intersecting the volume near corners and edges result in
> small values in the output of the raybox filter, and subsequently
> magnify the pixel values largely after division.
> This may not be a problem if the detector images are noiseless, but in
> practice this will magnify the noise and they will stay as streaks and
> dots in slices.
>
> To correct for this I have something in mind, such as making the
> volume bigger and cropping the detector images so that corners and
> edges of the volume do not project to the cropped detector; or
> increasing the threshold in the divide filter so that low values from
> edge/corner rays wll be zero out. Since I am lack of experiences in
> interative methods, my question is what the best or common practice
> will be to handle this? Thanks a lot.
>
> Regards,
> Chao
>
>
>
>
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