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<p class="MsoNormal">Trying to wrap my head around what you said. Really basic question – is .pvtm files a viable file format? Either it should be supported in ParaView readers, or it should be removed from Catalyst and VTK – correct?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I wrote up a bug here: <a href="https://gitlab.kitware.com/paraview/paraview/issues/18172">
https://gitlab.kitware.com/paraview/paraview/issues/18172</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Alan<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Andy Bauer <andy.bauer@kitware.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, May 15, 2018 at 8:33 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>W Scott <wascott@sandia.gov><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Utkarsh Ayachit <utkarsh.ayachit@kitware.com>, "paraview@paraview.org" <paraview@paraview.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Paraview] [EXTERNAL] Re: pvtm file format<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailOriginalBody">Hi Alan,<o:p></o:p></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">I wouldn't describe it as a redundant file format, just a redundant file extension (like ExodusII with .e, .ex2, etc.). Actually, looking through the PV and VTK source code, like Utkarsh did
before, there doesn't look to be anything that refers to .pvtm so maybe I'm just remembering things wrong here. Looking back though (</span><a href="https://www.vtk.org/Bug/view.php?id=10498"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">https://www.vtk.org/Bug/view.php?id=10498</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">)
it does seem like at one time we used the .pvtm file extension but maybe that was by accident though.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">As for writing out files from Catalyst, or even from ParaView, a user can select the writer and specify whatever they want for the file extension. Maybe that's where the issue arose.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Andy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 9:37 PM Scott, W Alan <</span><a href="mailto:wascott@sandia.gov" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">wascott@sandia.gov</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Thanks Andy. I’m hearing of numerous issues like thus, trying to wrap my head around same.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Let’s start with a few questions. Where is the .pvtm file format documented? Google doesn’t know... Next, why have two redundant
file formats? One should be deprecated. Why can Catalyst write this file format? And last, of course, why can’t ParaView read it?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><b>From:</b> Andy Bauer [mailto:</span><a href="mailto:andy.bauer@kitware.com" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">andy.bauer@kitware.com</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 14, 2018 7:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Scott, W Alan <</span><a href="mailto:wascott@sandia.gov" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">wascott@sandia.gov</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ayachit, Utkarsh (External Contacts) <</span><a href="mailto:utkarsh.ayachit@kitware.com" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">utkarsh.ayachit@kitware.com</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>;
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Paraview] [EXTERNAL] Re: pvtm file format<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">The .pvtm is the same as the .vtm file, just a redundant file extension. Really, the .vtm format is parallel/partition aware where as the
other .vt* extensions have a partitioned .pvt* format.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">I'm a bit surprised that PV doesn't associate the .pvtm file with multiblock datasets. If you try to read in a .pvtm file though you
just need to properly associate it with the XML multiblock data reader.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 9:14 PM Scott, W Alan via ParaView <</span><a href="mailto:paraview@public.kitware.com" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">paraview@public.kitware.com</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">I’ve never heard of these files either. From my user:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">I am writing planes of data in parallel with XMLMultiBlockWriter and it is generating *pvtm files. However, paraview doesn’t seem to support this file format for reading? I am trying to visualize the results and
I can read the individual *vtp files, but it doesn’t accept the parallel file.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Then:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">I will try to put something together for you soon. I am writing this dataset from a slice while running catalyst. I found a work around by using the MergeBlocks filter on the slice and then dumping that as an unstructured
grid via XMLPUnstructuredGridWriter.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Back to me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">“. I am writing this dataset from a slice while running catalyst.” So, I figured I would start by asking if this is a Catalyst/ ParaView/
VTK file format (that I had never heard of)... I have asked user for a dataset.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Alan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"><b>From:</b> Utkarsh Ayachit [mailto:</span><a href="mailto:utkarsh.ayachit@kitware.com" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">utkarsh.ayachit@kitware.com</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">]
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 14, 2018 7:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Scott, W Alan <</span><a href="mailto:wascott@sandia.gov" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">wascott@sandia.gov</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">><br>
<b>Cc:</b> ParaView <</span><a href="mailto:paraview@paraview.org" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">paraview@paraview.org</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [Paraview] pvtm file format<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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the context in which you encountered this?</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 9:05 PM Scott, W Alan via ParaView <</span><a href="mailto:paraview@public.kitware.com" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">paraview@public.kitware.com</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">What is a .pvtm file? How can I make one with sources?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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