[Paraview] What is the performance bottleneck in ParaViewWeb?
Sebastien Jourdain
sebastien.jourdain at kitware.com
Mon Mar 17 11:35:32 EDT 2014
That means it is using the GPU to do the rendering, which is good and
that's what is expected.
But I still don't understand why you get so terrible fps.
Seb
PS: Bring back the list in the loop ;-)
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 9:26 AM, David Torres <david.torres at renuda.com>wrote:
> > Do you see a pop-up window showing up with the 3D content in it on the
> server machine?
>
> Yes I do see a pop-up window with the axes at the first moment. But then
> it turns black and I cannot see the content in it (only in the browser).
> This pop-up window is however changing its size when I change the size of
> the browser window (so it is still connected in some way).
>
> Does this say something to you?
>
> Best regards,
>
> David Torres
>
> Computer Scientist
> Renuda UK
>
> tel: +44 (0)20 3371 1709
> web: www.renuda.com
>
> Renuda UK is registered in England and Wales. Company number 6218863.
> VAT registration number 918 6490 91. Registered office: 35 Charleville
> Road, London W14 9JJ, UK.
> Renuda registered trade mark.
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Sebastien Jourdain [sebastien.jourdain at kitware.com]
> *Sent:* 17 March 2014 15:07
> *To:* David Torres
>
> *Subject:* Re: What is the performance bottleneck in ParaViewWeb?
>
> You are...
>
> This is really strange...
>
> Do you see a pop-up window showing up with the 3D content in it on the
> server machine?
>
> Seb
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 8:09 AM, David Torres <david.torres at renuda.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> > Are you using the same paraview binary when you compare pvweb and pv?
>>
>> Yes I am using the same (I think)
>>
>> I am using */opt/paraviewopenfoam410/bin/paraview* to run ParaView
>>
>> and */opt/paraviewopenfoam410/bin/pvpython
>> lib/paraview-4.1/site-packages/paraview/web/pv_web_visualizer.py* *--content
>> /opt/**paraviewopenfoam410/share/paraview-4.1/www --data-dir
>> /home/myuser/VTKData/ --port 8080...* to run ParaViewWeb.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> David Torres
>>
>> Computer Scientist
>> Renuda UK
>>
>> tel: +44 (0)20 3371 1709
>> web: www.renuda.com
>>
>> Renuda UK is registered in England and Wales. Company number 6218863.
>> VAT registration number 918 6490 91. Registered office: 35 Charleville
>> Road, London W14 9JJ, UK.
>> Renuda registered trade mark.
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Sebastien Jourdain [sebastien.jourdain at kitware.com]
>> *Sent:* 17 March 2014 14:03
>>
>> *To:* David Torres
>> *Cc:* paraview at paraview.org
>> *Subject:* Re: What is the performance bottleneck in ParaViewWeb?
>>
>> Are you using the same paraview binary when you compare pvweb and pv?
>>
>> On Mar 17, 2014, at 5:24, David Torres <david.torres at renuda.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Seb,
>>
>> Thank you for the information :)
>>
>> There is not network involved. I am using the same machine as client and
>> server (I access like this: http://localhost:8080/apps/Visualizer/)
>>
>> I changed the quality of the images and there is no difference in the
>> performance (you were right). So, then, what is the bottleneck? Server and
>> client is the same machine and I can move fluently (25-30fps) the models I
>> am opening with ParaViewWeb if I open them just with ParaView.
>>
>> By the way, I have the bad performance in ParaViewWeb (2-5 fps) even if I
>> don't load anything and I only move the axes. Any idea where the bottleneck
>> might be? Anything I can do to find it out?
>>
>> Many thanks in advance for your help.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> David Torres
>>
>> Computer Scientist
>> Renuda UK
>>
>> tel: +44 (0)20 3371 1709
>> web: www.renuda.com
>>
>> Renuda UK is registered in England and Wales. Company number 6218863.
>> VAT registration number 918 6490 91. Registered office: 35 Charleville
>> Road, London W14 9JJ, UK.
>> Renuda registered trade mark.
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Sebastien Jourdain [sebastien.jourdain at kitware.com]
>> *Sent:* 14 March 2014 20:22
>> *To:* David Torres
>> *Cc:* paraview at paraview.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Paraview] Where is the properties file for ParaViewWeb?
>>
>> Are you trying directly on the machine that act as the server, or
>> using a remote client? On what network type?
>> Because usually when I get 2-5 fps, it's because the server is in US and
>> I'm on a basic DSL line in France...
>>
>> I'm not sure that lowering the image quality will change that much. In
>> fact, it already do it by default.
>>
>> I'm still thinking the issue is somewhere else.
>>
>> Anyway to change the quality, you will need to edit the
>> www/apps/Visualizer/index.html
>>
>> [...]
>> // Build application
>> function init() {
>> // - viewport
>> $(".viewport-container").empty();
>> viewport = vtkWeb.createViewport({
>> session: session,
>> interactiveQuality: 30,
>> stillQuality: 100
>> });
>> [...]
>>
>> Here is the full documentation about that:
>> http://www.paraview.org/ParaView3/Doc/Nightly/www/js-doc/index.html#!/api/vtkWeb.Viewport
>>
>> Seb
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 12:12 PM, David Torres <david.torres at renuda.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Seb,
>>>
>>> I tested in Chrome 26.0.1410.63 and in Firefox 20.0 (Mozilla Firefox
>>> for Ubuntu canonical - 1.0)
>>> I got similar results. I also noticed that the selector which changes
>>> from "Images" to "WebGL" or "VGL - WebGl" is not doing anything (or at
>>> least I cannot see any difference). In any case I am interested in "Images"
>>> i.e. rendering in the server. But I would need to low the quality of the
>>> images in order to boost the performance.
>>>
>>> Could you point any instructions that allow me to change the images
>>> resolution when the model is being moved?
>>>
>>> Many many thanks :)
>>>
>>> PS: Only as an example, in order to clarify: I have tried a mesh with
>>> 100 cells and a mesh with 10 million cells. I am getting exactly the same
>>> performance for both of them (2-5 fps).
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> David Torres
>>>
>>> Computer Scientist
>>> Renuda UK
>>>
>>> tel: +44 (0)20 3371 1709
>>> web: www.renuda.com
>>>
>>> Renuda UK is registered in England and Wales. Company number 6218863.
>>> VAT registration number 918 6490 91. Registered office: 35 Charleville
>>> Road, London W14 9JJ, UK.
>>> Renuda registered trade mark.
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Sebastien Jourdain [sebastien.jourdain at kitware.com]
>>> *Sent:* 14 March 2014 16:38
>>>
>>> *To:* David Torres
>>> *Cc:* paraview at paraview.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Paraview] Where is the properties file for ParaViewWeb?
>>>
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> you are right, your browser will just display the images that are sent
>>> by ParaViewWeb.
>>>
>>> BTW, which browser+version are you using?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Seb
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 3:10 AM, David Torres <david.torres at renuda.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you Sabastien,
>>>>
>>>> The thing is that in my machine, I have a good performance with
>>>> ParaView. The bad performance is with ParaViewWeb. I am assuming that this
>>>> is because the quality of the images that is sending is too high (I think
>>>> the browser is not rendering, only receiving images from the server, am I
>>>> right?).
>>>>
>>>> For the record, I installed ParaView using
>>>> `sudo apt-get install paraviewopenfoam410`
>>>> as `sudo apt-get install paraview` was installing the version 3.X and
>>>> here [1] says that 4.1 or newer is required in order to have ParaViewWeb.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your help.
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>> http://www.paraview.org/ParaView3/Doc/Nightly/www/js-doc/index.html#!/guide/quick_start
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> David Torres
>>>>
>>>> Computer Scientist
>>>> Renuda UK
>>>>
>>>> tel: +44 (0)20 3371 1709
>>>> web: www.renuda.com
>>>>
>>>> Renuda UK is registered in England and Wales. Company number 6218863.
>>>> VAT registration number 918 6490 91. Registered office: 35 Charleville
>>>> Road, London W14 9JJ, UK.
>>>> Renuda registered trade mark.
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Sebastien Jourdain [sebastien.jourdain at kitware.com]
>>>> *Sent:* 14 March 2014 04:02
>>>> *To:* David Torres
>>>> *Cc:* paraview at paraview.org
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Paraview] Where is the properties file for ParaViewWeb?
>>>>
>>>> Hi David,
>>>>
>>>> The file pw-config.properties is used with the Java version of the
>>>> launcher. Now with the latest release, we also provide a Python one.
>>>> =>
>>>> http://www.paraview.org/ParaView3/Doc/Nightly/www/js-doc/index.html#!/guide/py_launcher
>>>>
>>>> Moreover, those configuration files are used to configure a front-end
>>>> web server that will trigger pvpython command lines. For testing out
>>>> ParaViewWeb, those front-end are optional. Although, it should be pretty
>>>> easy to setup the python one by creating a config file that match your
>>>> local setting.
>>>> For real deployment read the EC2 documentation that explain how to
>>>> setup apache to deal with the ws forwarding.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the performances, on a local machine, you should be around
>>>> 30 fps. So I suspect, you don't have a proper driver for your graphic card.
>>>> If you have an Nvidia graphic card, try to install their driver.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for letting me know that the script does not work for you,
>>>> I'll fix it once I have a chance.
>>>>
>>>> Seb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 11:01 AM, David Torres <david.torres at renuda.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> in Linux using apt-get, and started the
>>>>>
>>>>> I am starting with ParaViewWeb. I installed Paraview 4.1.0. in Linux
>>>>> using apt-get, and started the ParaViewWeb server using the guide in [
>>>>> 1].
>>>>>
>>>>> I found is working very slow, even in local (2-5fps I think). And I
>>>>> read that I could play with images quality but I don't know where can I
>>>>> change them. Here [2] says there is a file called *
>>>>> pw-config.properties *which I couldn't find (I used `find / -name
>>>>> pw-config.properties`). I guess it belongs to a previous ParaView version.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then, my question is: where is the properties file in 4.1.0 and what
>>>>> is its name? Will I be able to change the quality of the images there?
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way, I tried the script provided in 'Simple Install' section in
>>>>> [1]. It has a mistake in the line 15.
>>>>> It is:
>>>>> `data = "ParaViewData-v4.1.zip"`
>>>>> and it should be
>>>>> `data = "ParaViewData-v4.1.0.zip"`
>>>>>
>>>>> However, after correcting that, is still failing in line 160 at some
>>>>> point (at least in Linux) and I couldn't find the error.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> http://www.paraview.org/ParaView3/Doc/Nightly/www/js-doc/index.html#!/guide/quick_start
>>>>> [2] http://www.paraview.org/Wiki/ParaViewWeb_Server_setting
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> David Torres
>>>>>
>>>>> Computer Scientist
>>>>> Renuda UK
>>>>>
>>>>> tel: +44 (0)20 3371 1709
>>>>> web: www.renuda.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Renuda UK is registered in England and Wales. Company number
>>>>> 6218863.
>>>>> VAT registration number 918 6490 91. Registered office: 35 Charleville
>>>>> Road, London W14 9JJ, UK.
>>>>> Renuda registered trade mark.
>>>>>
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