[Paraview] In-situ file/image output on Titan with 18k cores

Berk Geveci berk.geveci at kitware.com
Wed Nov 27 07:46:58 EST 2013


Hi Hong,

> 1.       It appears IceT-based image compositing for 18k cores takes such
a long time that it becomes unpractical to output images in-situ.
> Specifically, in our case, it takes about 14 minutes for coprocessing for
one time point that output a composited image while simulation
> alone for one time point only takes about 7 seconds. I have also done a
simulation run with in-situ visualization on Titan with 64 cores on a
> much lower resolution mesh (10 million element mesh as opposed on 167
million element mesh for 18k core run), in which case
> coprocessing with image output for 64 cores takes about 25 seconds.
Question: is there any way to improve performance of image
> compositing for 18k cores for in-situ visualization?

This doesn't make a lot of sense. Image compositing performance is not
strongly tied to the number of polygons. It is much more related to the
number of cores and the image size. So 64K cores with small data should not
perform so much better than 18K cores with large data. Since Ice-T takes
bounding boxes into account when compositing, there may be performance
gains when rendering less geometry but not to the extent that you are
describing.

On the other hand, I can see Mesa rendering performance being an issue. The
18K run probably has significantly more polygons per MPI rank, specially if
the polygons are not distributed somewhat evenly. This is definitely
worthwhile investigating. Do you have cycles to run a few more cases? We
can instrument things a bit better to see what is taking this much time.

> 2.       I also tried to avoid image output, but output polydata extracts
using XMLPPolyDataWriter instead on 18k cores. In this case, in-situ
> coprocessing only takes about 20 seconds (compared to 14 minutes with
image output). However, too many files are generated to a point
> that breaks the hard limit on maximal number of files in a directory
since the parallel writer writes a vtp file from each of 18k cores. So the
> output data files have to be broken up into different directories.
However, I got “cannot find file” error when I put a directory name as a
> parameter in coprocessor.CreateWriter() function call in my python
script. I tried initially to put “data/vorticity_%t.pvtp” as a parameter,
but it
> fails with “cannot find file” error. Not sure whether this is a bug or I
need to put absolute full path in rather than a relative path to the
current
> directory. Another question is whether there are ways to composite these
files generated from different cores into one single file while doing
> coprocessing so only one composite file is generated rather than a huge
number of files when running on large number of cores.

We are working on ADIOS based readers and writers that will allow for
writing to a single bp file. This should be ready sometime in January. This
should makes things much better.

-berk

On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Hong Yi <hongyi at renci.org> wrote:
>
> I have done several simulation runs linked with ParaView Catalyst for
in-situ visualization on Titan with 18k cores and have the following
observations/questions hoping to seek input from this list.
>
>
>
> 1.       It appears IceT-based image compositing for 18k cores takes such
a long time that it becomes unpractical to output images in-situ.
Specifically, in our case, it takes about 14 minutes for coprocessing for
one time point that output a composited image while simulation alone for
one time point only takes about 7 seconds. I have also done a simulation
run with in-situ visualization on Titan with 64 cores on a much lower
resolution mesh (10 million element mesh as opposed on 167 million element
mesh for 18k core run), in which case coprocessing with image output for 64
cores takes about 25 seconds. Question: is there any way to improve
performance of image compositing for 18k cores for in-situ visualization?
>
> 2.       I also tried to avoid image output, but output polydata extracts
using XMLPPolyDataWriter instead on 18k cores. In this case, in-situ
coprocessing only takes about 20 seconds (compared to 14 minutes with image
output). However, too many files are generated to a point that breaks the
hard limit on maximal number of files in a directory since the parallel
writer writes a vtp file from each of 18k cores. So the output data files
have to be broken up into different directories. However, I got “cannot
find file” error when I put a directory name as a parameter in
coprocessor.CreateWriter() function call in my python script. I tried
initially to put “data/vorticity_%t.pvtp” as a parameter, but it fails with
“cannot find file” error. Not sure whether this is a bug or I need to put
absolute full path in rather than a relative path to the current directory.
Another question is whether there are ways to composite these files
generated from different cores into one single file while doing
coprocessing so only one composite file is generated rather than a huge
number of files when running on large number of cores.
>
> Thanks for any input, suggestions, and comments!
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Hong
>
>
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