[Paraview] non ordered composite distributor and IceT

Moreland, Kenneth kmorel at sandia.gov
Mon Sep 26 10:23:54 EDT 2011


That all sounds correct.  Option 2 might get a little dodgy because the IceT parallel render manager does all sorts of funny things with the renderer and render window buffers to handle tile displays.  There will also be some oddness with an actor compositing an image that gets pasted to a framebuffer that gets composited again.

I think Option 1 (or some variant of it) would be easier to implement even if it does break encapsulation.

-Ken


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From: Stephane PLOIX <stephane.ploix at edf.fr<mailto:stephane.ploix at edf.fr>>
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 15:40:32 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Paraview] non ordered composite distributor and IceT


Hi John,

I see two solutions to your pb :
1/ you can setup special keys to tell the renderpass if a given actor should be rendered or not by this pass. You can then branch your renderpasses on two paths, one that does your special compositing and post-processing on the actors that you flagged with the special key, one that does traditionnal rendering for all other actors, and you then need to compose the 2 resulting images.

2/ You could setup an internal renderpass on your mapper that uses the IceT compositing mechanism, apply your post-processing internally, then render the result of this compositing on the current framebuffer.

Option 2 should be better since your render effect seems to be actor-centric.
Best,
Stephane

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Ken

After looking through the sources a little more, I see that the example plugin RenderPassViews does something similar to what I’m after. It add a render pass at the end which applies an edge detection algorithm, This happens after compositing –which is what I need.

However, this renderpass applies to all mappers/actors in the renderer/view, so if I used this strategy, then my post processing RGB correction from the mapper+compositing would happen to all actors, and this is no good.

So it looks like what I want to do won’t be possible, because there’d be no way to composite one actor individually and then blend with the others later.

Since you don’t know what it is I’m trying to do, it is probably unclear, but in short, the mapper renders the data on each process, and after all RGB images are summed in the compositing phase a correction must be applied to the RGB values (but its not commutative, so can’t be applied on each process individually). (unless I modify the algorithm which might be possible, I’ll check onthis)

One approach might be to add a separate pass which renders only the special geometry, but I suspect this will be too hard because the blending phases would all need to be tweaked so that the compositing happened twice (?) – once for the special stuff, once for everything else.

Can you tell if I’ve I understood things properly from my suppositions above, and if so, any other tips I might look into before I consider algorithmic changes.

Thanks

JB



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Sent: 21 September 2011 22:30
To: Biddiscombe, John A.; paraview at paraview.org<mailto:paraview at paraview.org>
Subject: Re: [Paraview] non ordered composite distributor and IceT

John,

If you look more closely, you should see that the data is only distributed when transparency is on.  If everything is opaque, then everything stays where it is.  If I remember correctly, there is a flag in vtkOrderedCompositeDistributor that turns it to a pass-through filter.  It's implemented like this because it's more convenient than changing around the internal pipeline.  If you never have to do ordered compositing, you could just remove this filter.  Likewise, you can set the parallel render manager to do non-ordered compositing and just forget about the parallel k-d tree.

-Ken

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Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:55:19 +0000
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Subject: [Paraview] non ordered composite distributor and IceT


Can anyone point me to an example of a representarion which interacts with IceT in any n on standard way. Geometryand UGVolume Representations use a vtkOrderedCompositeDistributor and then IceT takes over.

I’d like toe skip the vtkOrderedCompositeDistributor (which is ok), but I’m not sure how to interact with IceT and see howit doe the image summation etc.

Are there any odd representations out there I can use as examples?

Thanks

JB

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