[Paraview] Still more trouble compiling VisitBridge with Paraview 3.10 on RHEL 5

David Partyka david.partyka at kitware.com
Mon Apr 11 14:37:31 EDT 2011


Hi Rich, in CMake gui is BUILD_SHARED_LIBS on or off, that is what decides
if you're doing static or not.

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Cook, Rich <cook47 at llnl.gov> wrote:

> Hello,
> I don't know why or how I'm doing a static build and am not married to the
> idea -- it appears to be incidental to other choices I'm making.  I
> certainly never checked a box or set a variable explicitly requesting a
> static build that I recall.  I don't know if this list will allow me to
> attach the CMakeCache.txt file or if that would exceed a limit.
> Clearly the executables are not statically linked, or else I would not need
> rpath, so I don't know in what sense I'm doing a static build.
> The only libraries I'm statically linking are libsiloh5.a, libhdf5.a and
> libmili.a
> Cheers and thank you
> --Rich
>
> On Apr 11, 2011, at 11:08 AM, Utkarsh Ayachit wrote:
>
> > Rich,
> >
> > Dave just reminded me that you're doing a static build, I missed that.
> > In that case you will no have the "wrapper" executable I was referring
> > to and "shared forwarding" does not apply.
> > Out of curiosity, what libraries are you linking in shared with this
> > static build?
> >
> > Utkarsh
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Utkarsh Ayachit
> > <utkarsh.ayachit at kitware.com> wrote:
> >> I was hoping someone was going respond about the rpath stripping, but
> >> alas I suppose I'll have to :).
> >>
> >> rpaths are stripped to ensure that installed executable don't depend
> >> on anything that is not installed. To circumvent the LD_LIBRARY_PATH
> >> issues, Paraview uses what we call "shared-forwarding". The paraview
> >> executable that gets installed in "bin" directory is not the real
> >> paraview executable instead it's a wrapper executable that sets up the
> >> environment variables and the forks the real paraview executable
> >> (which is trypically under lib/paraview-version/...).
> >>
> >> So to diagnose the missing path, run the installed paraview with
> >> "--ldd" command line argument. What are the missing libraries and
> >> where are they located?
> >>
> >> Utkarsh
> >>
> >> On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Cook, Rich <cook47 at llnl.gov> wrote:
> >>> I also forgot to include the fact that IMO the installer stripping the
> rpath out of binaries without any way to prevent this breaks my install and
> is in my opinion a bug :-)  I have to install them by just copying them by
> hand.
> >>> -- Rich
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 11, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Cook, Rich wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi, thanks for replying.
> >>>> I don't know what went wrong.  One thing is that paraview wants to
> >>>> When I launch paraview, and then choose File->Open, then click on the
> "Files of Type" pull down menu in the File Open dialog, I see some Visit
> plugins, such as my ParaDIS reader, so I think some of the VisitBridge is
> "working" but I do not see a "Mili" file type option.  Also the user who
> requested it is not able to open his mili files yet.
> >>>> Not sure what to check or how to proceed.  Thanks for any help!
> >>>> -- Rich
> >>>>
> >>>> On Apr 11, 2011, at 5:28 AM, Robert Maynard wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Rich,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Can you give me some more information on what went wrong on install
> >>>>> time. I can spend some time this week making sure that static install
> >>>>> work properly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Cook, Rich <cook47 at llnl.gov> wrote:
> >>>>>> Sorry to speak up again.  I got MILI to compile but I think it did
> not install correctly.  Am I SOL for now?  The Mili support was the whole
> point of my trying to get this to work.  :-)
> >>>>>> Thanks for all the support
> >>>>>> -- Rich
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Apr 8, 2011, at 12:06 PM, Robert Maynard wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Rich,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I am currently working on fixing the issues with the MILI reader
> not
> >>>>>>> compiling correctly.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Cook, Rich <cook47 at llnl.gov>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Aha, it's the semicolon syntax that was unknown to me.  Thanks.
> >>>>>>>> I do want to reiterate that turning on the MILI reader did not
> result in a
> >>>>>>>> successful reader build, because the include and library settings
> do not get
> >>>>>>>> placed in the right makefiles.  I have to manually hack the
> link.txt and
> >>>>>>>> make.flags files or otherwise do workarounds for that.  As long as
> I'm doing
> >>>>>>>> that anyhow, I can just place the deeper dependencies there as
> well.
> >>>>>>>> On Apr 8, 2011, at 6:26 AM, David Partyka wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi Rich,
> >>>>>>>> Because you're building static you need to tell CMake what your
> >>>>>>>> Silo/Mili/HDF5 dependencies are because it has no way of knowing.
> To do
> >>>>>>>> this, in ccmake/cmake-gui you can list them in the same variables
> where you
> >>>>>>>> specified SILO_LIBRARY,MILI_LIBRARY, HDF5_LIBRARY/HDF5_LIBRARIES.
> This
> >>>>>>>> should give CMake enough information to compute the correct link
> line.
> >>>>>>>> For example, you should be able to set these in ccmake/cmake-gui
> like so:
> >>>>>>>> SILO_LIBRARY
> /usr/gapps/visit/silo/4.8/linux-x86_64_gcc-4.1/lib/libsiloh5.a;/usr/gapps/visit/szip/2.1/linux-x86_64_gcc-4.1/lib/libsz.a
> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Cook, Rich <cook47 at llnl.gov>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> OK, I just solved this by hacking into all the link.txt files I
> found
> >>>>>>>>> laying around.  This has been one ugly build process!
> >>>>>>>>> -- Rich
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 7, 2011, at 4:00 PM, Cook, Rich wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> So, our libmili.a, libsiloh5.a and libhdf5.a libraries have
> dependencies
> >>>>>>>>>> on another library, libsz.  I've tried adding  -lz
> >>>>>>>>>> /usr/gapps/visit/szip/2.1/linux-x86_64_gcc-4.1/lib/libsz.a  to
> every STRING
> >>>>>>>>>> I can in the CMakeCache.txt file, but I'm stuck on this error.
>  How can I
> >>>>>>>>>> append linker flags to what cmake is doing here?  You can see
> that the -lz
> >>>>>>>>>> and libsz.a are being inserted here, but it needs to come at the
> end of the
> >>>>>>>>>> link line to resolve the symbols.  I might resort to sed and
> grep if this
> >>>>>>>>>> keeps up, but I hope I don't have to.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Linking CXX executable ../../../../bin/ServerManagerStateLoader
> >>>>>>>>>> cd
> >>>>>>>>>>
> /nfs/tmp2/rcook/Paraview/3.10/build/ParaView-3.10.0/build/Servers/ServerManager/Testing/Cxx
> >>>>>>>>>> && /usr/gapps/visit/cmake/2.8.3/linux-x86_64_gcc-4.1/bin/cmake
> -E
> >>>>>>>>>> cmake_link_script
> CMakeFiles/ServerManagerStateLoader.dir/link.txt
> >>>>>>>>>> --verbose=1
> >>>>>>>>>> /usr/local/bin/g++
> >>>>>>>>>>
> -I/usr/global/tools/Kitware/Paraview/3.10/chaos_4_x86_64_ib/include
> >>>>>>>>>> -I/usr/gapps/visit/mili/1.10.0/linux-x86_64_gcc-4.1/include
> >>>>>>>>>> -Wno-deprecated -g
> >>>>>>>>>> -L/usr/global/tools/Kitware/Paraview/3.10/chaos_4_x86_64_ib/lib
> >>>>>>>>>> -L/usr/gapps/visit/mili/1.10.0/linux-x86_64_gcc-4.1/lib -lmili
> >>>>>>>>>> /usr/gapps/visit/hdf5/1.8.4/linux-x86_64_gcc-4.1/lib/libhdf5.a
> -lz
> >>>>>>>>>> /usr/gapps/visit/szip/2.1/linux-x86_64_gcc-4.1/lib/libsz.a
> >>>>>>>>>>
> CMakeFiles/ServerManagerStateLoader.dir/ServerManagerStateLoader.cxx.o
> >>>>>>>>>>
> CMakeFiles/ServerManagerStateLoader.dir/vtkTestingProcessModuleGUIHelper.cxx.o
> >>>>>>>>>> CMakeFiles/ServerManagerStateLoader.dir/vtkTestingOptions.cxx.o
>  -o
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/ServerManagerStateLoader -rdynamic
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkPVServerManager.a
> ../../../../bin/libvtkPVFiltersCS.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkPVFilters.a
> ../../../../bin/libvtkPVServerCommonCS.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkPVServerCommon.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkPVCommandOptions.a
> ../../../../bin/libvtkChartsCS.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkViewsCS.a
> ../../../../bin/libvtkInfovisCS.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libQVTK.a
> >>>>>>>>>>
> /usr/global/tools/Kitware/Paraview/3.10/chaos_4_x86_64_ib/lib/libQtWebKit.so
> >>>>>>>>>>
> /usr/global/tools/Kitware/Paraview/3.10/chaos_4_x86_64_ib/lib/libQtXmlPatterns.so
> >>>>>>>>>>
> /usr/global/tools/Kitware/Paraview/3.10/chaos_4_x86_64_ib/lib/libQtNetwork.so
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libIceTMPI.a ../../../../bin/libIceTGL.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libIceTCore.a -lGLU
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkVolumeRenderingCS.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkVolumeRendering.a
> ../../../../bin/libvtkWidgetsCS.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libKWCommon.a ../../../../bin/libvtkCharts.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkViews.a ../../../../bin/libvtkInfovis.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkWidgets.a ../../../../bin/libvtkalglib.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkXdmfCS.a ../../../../bin/libvtkXdmf.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libXdmf.a ../../../../bin/libvtklibxml2.a -lm
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkVisItDatabasesCS.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkVisItAVTAlgorithmsCS.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkHybridCS.a
> ../../../../bin/libvtkParallelCS.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkHybrid.a ../../../../bin/libvtkParallel.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libVPIC.a ../../../../bin/libCosmo.a
> >>>>>>>>>> /usr/local/tools/mvapich-gnu/lib/shared/libmpich.so
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkexoIIc.a
> ../../../../bin/libvtkRenderingCS.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkRendering.a ../../../../bin/libvtkftgl.a
> >>>>>>>>>>
> /usr/global/tools/Kitware/Paraview/3.10/chaos_4_x86_64_ib/lib/libQtGui.so
> >>>>>>>>>>
> /usr/global/tools/Kitware/Paraview/3.10/chaos_4_x86_64_ib/lib/libQtSql.so
> >>>>>>>>>>
> /usr/global/tools/Kitware/Paraview/3.10/chaos_4_x86_64_ib/lib/libQtCore.so
> >>>>>>>>>> -lGL ../../../../bin/libvtkfreetype.a -lXt -lSM -lICE -lX11
> -lXext
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkGenericFilteringCS.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkGenericFiltering.a
> ../../../../bin/libvtkGraphicsCS.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkImagingCS.a ../../../../bin/libvtkIOCS.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkFilteringCS.a
> ../../../../bin/libvtkCommonCS.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkClientServer.a
> ../../../../bin/libvtkVisItDatabases.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkVisItAVTAlgorithms.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libavtdatabase_par.a
> ../../../../bin/libavtpipeline_par.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libavtdbatts.a ../../../../bin/libavtivp.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvisit_vtk.a ../../../../bin/libvtkGraphics.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkverdict.a ../../../../bin/libvtkImaging.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/liblightweight_visit_vtk.a
> ../../../../bin/libvtkIO.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkDICOMParser.a
> ../../../../bin/libvtkNetCDF_cxx.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkmetaio.a ../../../../bin/libvtksqlite.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkpng.a ../../../../bin/libvtktiff.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkzlib.a ../../../../bin/libvtkjpeg.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtkexpat.a ../../../../bin/libvtkFiltering.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libavtmath.a ../../../../bin/libvtkCommon.a
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvtksys.a -lm -lpthread -lz
> >>>>>>>>>> /usr/gapps/visit/szip/2.1/linux-x86_64_gcc-4.1/lib/libsz.a -ldl
> >>>>>>>>>> ../../../../bin/libvisitcommon.a ../../../../bin/libvtkNetCDF.a
> >>>>>>>>>> /usr/gapps/visit/hdf5/1.8.4/linux-x86_64_gcc-4.1/lib/libhdf5.a
> >>>>>>>>>> /usr/gapps/visit/silo/4.8/linux-x86_64_gcc-4.1/lib/libsiloh5.a
> >>>>>>>>>> /usr/gapps/visit/cgns/3.0.8/linux-x86_64_gcc-4.1/lib/libcgns.a
> >>>>>>>>>> /usr/gapps/visit/mili/1.10.0/linux-x86_64_gcc-4.1/lib/libmili.a
> >>>>>>>>>>
> -Wl,-rpath,/usr/global/tools/Kitware/Paraview/3.10/chaos_4_x86_64_ib/lib:/usr/local/tools/mvapich-gnu/lib/shared
> >>>>>>>>>>
> /usr/gapps/visit/hdf5/1.8.4/linux-x86_64_gcc-4.1/lib/libhdf5.a(H5Z.o):
> >>>>>>>>>> In function `H5Z_init_interface':
> >>>>>>>>>> H5Z.c:(.text+0x27d): undefined reference to `SZ_encoder_enabled'
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> /usr/gapps/visit/hdf5/1.8.4/linux-x86_64_gcc-4.1/lib/libhdf5.a(H5Zszip.o):
> >>>>>>>>>> In function `H5Z_filter_szip':
> >>>>>>>>>> H5Zszip.c:(.text+0x121): undefined reference to
> >>>>>>>>>> `SZ_BufftoBuffDecompress'
> >>>>>>>>>> H5Zszip.c:(.text+0x1ce): undefined reference to
> `SZ_BufftoBuffCompress'
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> /usr/gapps/visit/silo/4.8/linux-x86_64_gcc-4.1/lib/libsiloh5.a(silo_hdf5.o):
> >>>>>>>>>> In function `db_hdf5_InqMeshName':
> >>>>>>>>>> silo_hdf5.c:(.text+0x839e): undefined reference to `H5Topen1'
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> /usr/gapps/visit/silo/4.8/linux-x86_64_gcc-4.1/lib/libsiloh5.a(silo_hdf5.o):
> >>>>>>>>>> In function `db_hdf5_hdrwr':
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
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> >>>>
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