[Paraview] ParaView and QT

[Dominik Szczerba]

Are you suggesting that the PV's VTK version should be used instead of 
the 'official' one - for the 'usual' VTK coding?
Thanks,
-- Dominik

Berk Geveci wrote:
> In a way, I suppose. However, keep in mind that VTK and ParaView
> release cycles are completely different. VTK is released at most once
> per year (and it is almost a miracle when that happens) whereas
> ParaView is released 3-4 times per year. If we were stuck with the
> latest version of VTK (5.0 from 2 years ago), we would end up bundling
> a lot of improvements and bug fixes for VTK in ParaView. This would
> make the development a major pain and the migration of improvements
> from ParaView to VTK would almost never happen. Maybe one day, if the
> release cycles are close AND VTK is as widely distributed as Qt, we
> can stop bundling VTK.
> 
> -berk
> 
> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Dominik Szczerba <domi at vision.ee.ethz.ch> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is bundling VTK not falling into the same category?
>>
>> -- Dominik
>>
>> Berk Geveci wrote:
>>> I agree with Michael that it is not a good idea to bundle Qt with
>>> ParaView. I was not happy with bundling Tcl/Tk despite the fact that
>>> they are pretty small compared to Qt. I think we will try to keep up
>>> with Qt better in the future. We may officially support a specific
>>> version but we will try new version as they come out and make sure
>>> that they compile at least.
>>>
>>> -berk
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 5:05 AM, Michael Wild <themiwi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Or, as you're using Debian, you can use pinning to prevent apt from
>>> updating
>>> Qt. See e.g. [1] or ask google.
>>>
>>> I would hate a bundled Qt because it is a large beast and if everybody
>>> starts doing it we end up in Windows-Land where every program comes with
>>> the
>>> full set of libraries it depends on, cluttering the system until it's so
>>> broken only a clean install can solve the problems...
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1Jun, 2008, at 2:42, Berk Geveci wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> It is not easy to keep up with Trolltech guys, they keep busy :-) I
>>>>>> recommend downloading your own version of Qt, building it and
>>>>>> installing it somewhere out of the system path (I use /opt/qt-4.X.X).
>>>>>> We will start supporting Qt 4.4 after we release 3.4.
>>>>>> Also, it sounds like the problem you are running into is with CMake
>>>>>> parsing the output of qmake. Did you test with cvs CMake?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -berk
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Andrew Maclean
>>>>>> <andrew.amaclean at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> This is really frustrating as my debian machines all upgraded to QT
>>>>>>> 4.4 a few weeks ago so the ParaView builds are now broken. Even
>>>>>>> editing the CMakeLists.txt files does not work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why is it that everytime Trolltech changes QT it seems to require a
>>>>>>> major amount of work?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If it is not possible to keep up with the changes coming through from
>>>>>>> TrollTech, is it possible to do what you used to do with the older
>>>>>>> version of ParaView and have a special version of QT that is bundled
>>>>>>> with it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You say ParaView only works with a particular version of QT so why not
>>>>>>> bundle it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry if I sound cranky - I am getting frustrated!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>> Centre for Autonomous Systems
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>> Dominik Szczerba, Ph.D.
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>> Computer Vision Lab CH-8092 Zurich
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Dominik Szczerba, Ph.D.
Biomedical Simulation Group
Computer Vision Lab CH-8092 Zurich
http://www.vision.ee.ethz.ch/~domi