[Paraview] Client server problems in running 3.2.1 on SVA

Fri Jan 4 00:13:25 EST 2008

Hi Ken,
 Yeah I am using -np 2, that was a typo. I am using HPMPI, HPs
implementation of MPI.

Thanks,
Manju

 Shouldn't you be using –np 2 instead of –n2.  I don't see where you
> specified your MPI implementation, but I have never used –n# in liu of –np
> #.
>
>
>
> -Ken
>
>
>   ------------------------------
>
> *From:* paraview-bounces+kmorel=sandia.gov at paraview.org [mailto:
> paraview-bounces+kmorel=sandia.gov at paraview.org] *On Behalf Of *Manjunath
> Sripadarao
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 03, 2008 8:08 AM
> *To:* paraview at paraview.org
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Paraview] Client server problems in running 3.2.1 on SVA
>
>
>
> Hi Ken,
>  Thanks for the clarification. I think a little more information is needed
> as I am
> running into some problem that I can't seem to resolve.
>
> I am using 3 machines of my cluster all three are connected to 3 displays.
> I want
> use 2 of them as multi-tile display with 2 tiles. I have the Paraview GUI
> on the
> third machine. All three have X servers running and are MPI enabled. So
> here
> is how I launch the jobs on the machines.
>
> $ mpirun -n2 -hostlist "sva11 sva12" /bin/env DISPLAY=:0 pvserver -tdx=2
> -tdy=1
>
> and I launch the client
>
> $ paraview
>
> and then connect to sva11.
>
> My servers.pvsc looks like
>
> <Servers>
>   <Server name="builtin" resource="builtin:">
>     <ManualStartup/>
>   </Server>
>   <Server name="fw-sva10" resource="cs://sva10:11111">
>     <ManualStartup/>
>   </Server>
>   <Server name="fw-sva11" resource="cs://sva11:11111">
>     <ManualStartup/>
>   </Server>
>   <Server name="fw-sva12" resource="cs://sva12:11111">
>     <ManualStartup/>
>   </Server>
> <Server>
>
>
> But the window multi-tile window appears only on sva11 and it doesn't
> span the whole screen (which it used to do previously). And it doesn't
> seem
> like sva12 is even doing anything. I suspect this because sva11 flickers
> when the client connects, but sva12 remains as it is.
>
> If I do the reverse and connect the client to sva12, then model window
> appears
> on sva12 and sva11 seems to do nothing.
>
> Is there anything I am missing ?
> I am using Paraview 3.2.1.
>
> Thanks,
> Manju
>
> What you are trying to do does not work because ParaView is not supposed
> to run like that. When running in client/server mode, ParaView connects
> to process 0 of the server, and nothing else. All communication with the
> client goes through process 0, and process 0 of the server uses the MPI
> interconnect to pass data to and from the other nodes in the server.
>
> ParaView is implemented in this way for convenience and scalability. It
> is not scalable to have every process in the server to connect to the
> client because all communication will eventually have to go through the
> same network interface on the client side. Also, the MPI interconnect on
> the server is almost always faster than the socket communication between
> client and server.
>
> -Ken
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Manjunath Sripadarao [mailto: manjunaths at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 11:05 PM
> > To: Moreland, Kenneth
> > Subject: Re: [Paraview] Client server problems in running 3.2.1 on SVA
> >
> > Hi Kenneth,
> >  Thanks for the reply.
> >
> > > Problem 1: Do not use mpirun with the paraview executable.  The
> ParaView
> > > client is a serial application and should not be launched with
> mpirun.
> >
> > Ah...ok. I did launch paraview with using mpirun.
> >
> > > Problem 2: Only launch the server with one mpirun command.  Use the
> -np
> > > argument to mpirun to specify how many processes you want the server
> to
> > > run in (in your case, probably 2).  If your MPI environment it set
> up
> > > right, mpirun will automatically launch it on n2 and n3.  If not,
> either
> > > change your MPI configuration or provide a machines file to mpirun
> to
> > > specify on which hosts to run on.  The instructions for doing that
> vary
> > > based on MPI implementations and installations.  Talk to your system
> > > administrators for more information.
> >
> > I did this too, I am using a machines file for this (which we call an
> app
> > file
> > but all the same). But how do you get the client to "listen" to 2 or
> > more servers ?
> > Even though I start 2 or 3 servers, if I can't get the client to
> listen
> > to multiple servers then it won't connect to all of them. If I use the
> > -s option multiple times it only connects to the last one i.e.,
> > if I give
> > $ paraview -s=n2 -s=n3
> > only n3 pvserver gets connected and n2 pvserver quits.
> >
> > If I write a servers.pvsc file with a list of servers, how do I get
> > paraview pick the file automatically and connect to all the servers ?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Manju
> >
> > > -Ken
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: paraview-bounces+kmorel=sandia.gov at paraview.org
> > > [mailto: paraview-
> > > > bounces+kmorel=sandia.gov at paraview.org] On Behalf Of Manjunath
> > > Sripadarao
> > > > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:00 PM
> > > > To: paraview at paraview.org
> > > > Subject: [Paraview] Client server problems in running 3.2.1 on SVA
> > > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >  I am trying to run Paraview 3.2.1 in client server mode. So here
> is
> > > > my setup, I have a cluster
> > > > of workstations n[1-3]. I launch the client on n1 and reverse
> connect
> > > > to my servers on n2 and n3.
> > > > I am running the client like this
> > > > $[n1] mpirun <...other MPI options...> paraview -s=n2 -s=n3
> > > > and server like this
> > > > $[n2] mpirun <...other MPI options...> pvserver -rc
> --client-host=n1
> > > > -tdx=2 -tdy=1
> > > > and
> > > > $[n3] mpirun <...other MPI options...> pvserver -rc
> --client-host=n1
> > > > -tdx=2 -tdy=1
> > > > but paraview connects only to n3 but not to n2.
> > > > I figured out from the list and corresponding with Weiguang that
> by
> > > > creating a
> > > > servers.pvsc file in .config/ParaView/servers.pvsc and adding
> > > > <Servers>
> > > >   <Server name="builtin" resource="builtin:">
> > > >     <ManualStartup/>
> > > >   </Server>
> > > >   <Server name="n2" resource="csrc://n2:11111">
> > > >     <ManualStartup/>
> > > >   </Server>
> > > >   <Server name="n3" resource="csrc://n3:11111">
> > > >     <ManualStartup/>
> > > >   </Server>
> > > > </Servers>
> > > >
> > > > I can't get the client to connect, when I remove the
> > > > --server=<nodename> line on the client, it does not
> > > > read the above file and does not connect. I have to manually say
> > > > file->connect and connect to a selected
> > > > server, but once I connect to one of them, it drops the connection
> > > > another server. Has the ability to
> > > > connect to multiple servers been disabled in 3.2.1 ?
> > > > I want to run one client and multiple servers to have a
> multi-tiled
> > > > display.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Manju
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> > >
> > >
> > >
>
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