[Paraview-developers] Define NDEBUG in VTK Submodule (WAS: 100% CPU usage once again)
Moreland, Kenneth
kmorel at sandia.gov
Wed Oct 11 12:39:41 EDT 2017
That's weird. I thought CMake was supposed to automatically add the -DNDEBUG flag whenever you compile anything under Release mode.
At any rate, I'll hand that question off to Utkarsh or one of the ParaView team at Kitware. They would be better than me at answering build questions like this.
-Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Kapinos [mailto:kapinos at itc.rwth-aachen.de]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 10:19 AM
To: Moreland, Kenneth <kmorel at sandia.gov>; paraview-developers at paraview.org
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Paraview-developers] 100% CPU usage once again
Kenneth, thank you for your message and the update of the wiki!
Meanwhile I was able to reproduce the busy waiting with Open MPI (and other
MPIs) on a 10-line-example and asked the Open MPI developers about this:
https://www.mail-archive.com/devel@lists.open-mpi.org//msg20407.html
The spinning processes stuck at MPI_Barrier call in line 40 of
'ParaView-v5.4.1/VTK/Parallel/MPI/vtkMPICommunicator.cxx' file,
> 34 static inline void vtkMPICommunicatorDebugBarrier(MPI_Comm* handle)
> 35 {
> 36 // If NDEBUG is defined, do nothing.
> 37 #ifdef NDEBUG
> 38 (void)handle; // to avoid warning about unused parameter
> 39 #else
> 40 MPI_Barrier(*handle);
> 41 #endif
> 42 }
It seem that ParaView's auto-build VTK version is build without NDEBUG define,
or with other words, *with* debug stuff.
Q: Is there a way to tell the ParaView's configure to set the VTK's define
'NDEBUG'? Or, more general, how-to tune VTK parameters? :o)
Have a nice day,
Paul Kapinos
On 10/09/2017 11:27 PM, Moreland, Kenneth wrote:
> Paul,
>
> Thanks for the info. I updated the Wiki page with your information. Hopefully I captured everything.
>
> I'll let someone from Kitware respond about the possibility of changing the binaries that are distributed.
>
> -Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paraview-developers [mailto:paraview-developers-bounces at paraview.org] On Behalf Of Paul Kapinos
> Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 1:08 AM
> To: paraview-developers at paraview.org
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Paraview-developers] 100% CPU usage once again
>
> (cross-post from 'paraview at paraview.org' 10/04/2017)
>
> Dear ParaView developer,
>
> in [1] you say
>> If you have information on disabling the busy wait using a different
>> MPI implementation, please contribute back by documenting it here.
>
> Here we go.
>
> a)
> It is possible to build 'pvserver' using Intel MPI (and GCC compilers).
> By setting I_MPI_WAIT_MODE environment variable to 'enable' value you can effectively prevent busy waiting, see [2] p.10 (Tested with Intel MPI 5.1(.3.181)).
>
> Q/FR.1 Could you please provide a version of 'pvserver' build using Intel MPI in official release of ParaView? [4]
>
>
>
> b)
> It is (obviously) possible to build 'pvserver' using MPICH (and GCC compilers).
> Itself, MPICH can be *configured* with '--with-device=ch3:sock' option. This is described to be 'slower' as '--with-device=ch3:nemesis'
> For our experiments it turned out, that 'pvserver' compiled and linked using MPICH with 'ch3:sock' configure option did not have the busy waiting aka 100%-CPU behaviour.
> Note that this is *configure-time of MPI library* parameter.
>
>
> (Tested with MPICH 3.2)
>
> Q/FR.2 Could you please provide a version of 'pvserver' build using MPICH *configured with '--with-device=ch3:sock' option* in official release of ParaView? [4] This binary will be very likely be even compatible with 'standard' MPICH installations; we're able to start it even with IntelMPI's 'mpiexec' with success and no busy waiting. However YES you will need to have a MPICH release be build
>
>
>
>
> c)
> It is possible to build 'pvserver' using Open MPI (and GCC compilers).
> In [1] you document how-to 'turn off' the busy waiting behaviour in Open MPI (cf. [5],[6]).
> Unfortunately this *did not work* in our environment (InfiniBand QDR and Intel OmniPath clusters, OpenMPI 1.10.4).
> Note that likely we're not alone, cf. [7].
> Note that the switch likely just move the spinning location from MPI library itself to the fabrics library (cf. the screenshots, without 'mpi_yield_when_idle 1' (=default) the 'pvserver' processes spin with 'green' aka user 100%, and with 'mpi_yield_when_idle 1' the processes stays spinning but now with a lot of 'red'
> aka kernel time portion.
>
> Conclusion: the way to disable busy waiting for Open MPI which is documented in [1], is not useful for us. We do not know this is a speciality of our site or a general issue; we think some survey at this point could be useful.
>
> Q/FR.3 In case you should want to provide precompiled versions ov 'pvserver' for Open MPI, remember that there are ABI changes in major version changes. So you would likely need to compile+link *three* versions of 'pvserver' with Open MPI 1.10.x (still default in Linux), 2.x (current), 3.x (new).
>
>
>
> d) In [10] there is a phrase about how-to disable busy waiting on yet another two MPI implementaions,
>> ... IBM MPI has the MP_WAIT_MODE and
>> the SUPER-UX MPI/XS library has MPISUSPEND to choose the waiting mode,
>> either polling or sleeping.
>
> Somebody with access to there MPIs could evaluate this, maybe.
>
> Have a nice day,
>
> Paul Kapinos
>
>
>
> [1]
> https://www.paraview.org/Wiki/Setting_up_a_ParaView_Server#Server_processes_always_have_100.25_CPU_usage
>
> [2]
> https://software.intel.com/sites/products/Whitepaper/Clustertools/amplxe_inspxe_interop_with_mpi.pdf
> (cf. p.10)
>
> [3]
> https://wiki.mpich.org/mpich/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Q:_Why_does_my_MPI_program_run_much_slower_when_I_use_more_processes.3F
>
> [4] https://www.paraview.org/download/
>
> [5] http://www.open-mpi.org/faq/?category=running#oversubscribing
>
> [6] http://www.open-mpi.org/faq/?category=running#force-aggressive-degraded
>
> [7] https://www.paraview.org/pipermail/paraview/2008-December/010349.html
>
> [8] http://blogs.cisco.com/performance/polling-vs-blocking-message-passingprogress
>
> [9] https://www.open-mpi.org/community/lists/users/2010/10/14505.php
>
> [10] http://comp.parallel.mpi.narkive.com/3oXMDXno/non-busy-waiting-barrier-in-mpi
>
> [11] http://blogs.cisco.com/performance/polling-vs-blocking-message-passingprogress
>
> [12] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14560714/probe-seems-to-consume-the-cpu
>
>
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