[ITK-users] [ITK] [ITK-dev] Migration to GitHub

Bill Lorensen bill.lorensen at gmail.com
Tue Aug 1 11:13:04 EDT 2017


Cory,
I think you meant to say VTK has no plans to move to GitHub.

On Aug 1, 2017 10:27 AM, "Cory Quammen" <cory.quammen at kitware.com> wrote:

> I don't have much of an opinion on moving ITK to GitHub, but I'd like to
> address some things Andras mentioned about GitLab and VTK.
>
>
>> About GitHub/Kitware GitLab:
>>
>> I heard that VTK is going to move to GitHub, too. Maybe I misunderstood,
>> but make sure to talk to VTK folks before considering moving to GitLab.
>
>
> I am not aware of any plans to move VTK to GitLab or even any discussion
> of doing so.
>
>
>> Anyway, as a very active user but only occasional contributor of VTK, I
>> find VTK GitLab quite frustrating due to that:
>> 1. It is slow. I heard that it's fast when accessed from inside Kitware
>> network, but most community members are outside.
>>
>
> The first few versions were indeed a bit slow, but new updates come out
> regularly, and the speed is quite snappy. I use it both from within the
> Kitware network and outside the network and haven't noticed a difference.
>
>
>> 2. I need to re-learn each time I use it: I review code, submit PR or bug
>> report once in every few months - and each time I need to spend 20-30
>> minutes extra, just to find out how things work.
>
>
>> Andras
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Community [mailto:community-bounces at itk.org] On Behalf Of Matt
>> McCormick
>> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 7:00 PM
>> To: Bill Lorensen <bill.lorensen at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Insight-Users <insight-users at itk.org>; Hans Johnson <
>> hans-johnson at uiowa.edu>; Insight Developers List <
>> insight-developers at public.kitware.com>
>> Subject: Re: [ITK] [ITK-dev] [ITK-users] Migration to GitHub
>>
>> I have followed VTK's migration to GitLab, and Kitware has done an
>> excellent job with it. That said, I still think GitHub is the better choice
>> for ITK. Also, the technical and social situation has changed in the time
>> since VTK moved to GitLab.
>>
>> I think the key factor is "community", and GitHub has the open source
>> community.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Bill Lorensen <bill.lorensen at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Vtk moved to GitLab.  Have you checked with the Kitware folks to see
>> > why they didn't use gitlab?  For me, either github or gitlab is great.
>> >
>> > On Jul 31, 2017 6:03 PM, "Johnson, Hans J" <hans-johnson at uiowa.edu>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> 1000 x +1
>> >>
>> >> I enthusiastically support this proposal.
>> >>
>> >> Hans
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 7/31/17, 4:57 PM, "Insight-users on behalf of Jim Miller"
>> >> <insight-users-bounces at itk.org on behalf of millerjv at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>     +1
>> >>
>> >>     Jim
>> >>
>> >>     > On Jul 31, 2017, at 5:07 PM, Matt McCormick
>> >> <matt.mccormick at kitware.com> wrote:
>> >>     >
>> >>     > Hi folks,
>> >>     >
>> >>     > We are considering migration of ITK's software process to
>> >> GitHub, and
>> >>     > we would like your feedback.
>> >>     >
>> >>     > As an open-source, community-driven project, mechanisms to
>> >> communicate
>> >>     > and interact with the community are a high priority for ITK.
>> >>     > Contributing should be as easy as possible. Increasingly over
>> >> the past
>> >>     > many years, GitHub has become the de facto place to interact
>> >> for open
>> >>     > source development. It is now a hub for:
>> >>     >
>> >>     >  Microsoft
>> >>     >  Facebook
>> >>     >  Google
>> >>     >  The Scientific Python Community
>> >>     >  The 3D Slicer Community
>> >>     >
>> >>     > Our InsightSoftwareConsortium GitHub organization [1] already
>> has 67
>> >>     > people in it and 74 repositories. There are hundreds of
>> >> projects that
>> >>     > depend on ITK on GitHub. Many ITK developers are familiar with
>> the
>> >>     > development process on GitHub (i.e the pull request process) and
>> >>     > already have an account on this platform. There are also
>> >> advantages to
>> >>     > linking issues and commits with other projects and repositories.
>> >> Since
>> >>     > ITK thrives on the open-source development idea, everyone who
>> >> wants to
>> >>     > help the project should be able to contribute, and therefore it
>> >> should
>> >>     > be as easy as possible to start participating in the community.
>> >>     >
>> >>     > Recently, GitHub's code review capabilities have greatly
>> improved,
>> >>     > which make it more feasible to coordinate contributions for a
>> large
>> >>     > project like ITK. And, there are many existing GitHub-integrated
>> >>     > services that we can leverage.
>> >>     >
>> >>     > Thanks to resources from the National Library of Medicine and
>> >>     > technological advances, it is now feasible to migrate the
>> project's
>> >>     > software process to GitHub. There are many infrastructural
>> >> aspects to
>> >>     > the migration, and it would take multiple months to complete.
>> Please
>> >>     > let us know your thoughts before we embark on the journey.
>> >>     >
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