[Insight-users] Normalisation of images necessary?

jef vdmb jvdmb at hotmail.com
Sun Apr 24 05:28:54 EDT 2005


Hi Luis,

Thank you for your advice on my work. Believe me, I do know that it is 
impossible to "rank" the metrics, or even to "characterize" them correctly 
(or completely). Eventhough I am only including 4 metrics in my research, 
the possiblilities seem endless. But in fact, my goal is not to make a 
theoretical study of the metrics, but to find ONE that works for my 
particular US-MR 2D-3D registration problem. From that point of view, it 
doesn't bother me to perform preprocessing on some metrics and not on 
others, as long as it improves the behavior of the metric in question.

Your advice on using rescaling or windowing  is new to me, it seems 
applicable for all metrics, no?

Just to make sure I understand what your saying:

The idea is to only retain that range of intensities in the image that will 
contribute in a good way to the calculation of the metric? For both images 
this range can be different?


Thanks again for all your advice, ITK is an excelllent toolkit!!!!! I would 
call it my bible but I don't want to piss off the new pope;-)


Jef

>From: Luis Ibanez <luis.ibanez at kitware.com>
>To: Jef Vandemeulebroucke <jvdmb at hotmail.com>
>CC: insight-users at itk.org
>Subject: Re: [Insight-users] Normalisation of images necessary?
>Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 17:27:25 -0400
>
>
>Hi Jef,
>
>Normalization of the image intensities is not required for
>the Image Metrics:
>
> > MutualInformationHistogramImageToImageMetric
> > NormalizedMutualInformationHistogramImageToImageMetric
>
>However, what is *VERY* important is to make sure that you use
>the range of intensities that is relevant to the anatomical
>structures that you care to register.
>
>In other words, your image will have section of the dynamic
>range of intensities that are not contributing (and may even
>disturb) the evaluation of the Metric. You should then apply
>a filter such as
>
>
>      RescaleIntensityImageFilter
>
>or
>
>       IntensityWindowingImageFilter
>
>for preprocessing the images.
>
>Note that these filters (and its parameters) bring uncertainty
>to your comparision of Image metrics. For the sake of fairness
>you probably want to apply *exactly* the same preprocessing to
>the image that are fed into all your registration metrics.
>
>
>Note that at the end, any comparision of Algorithms is pointless
>and useless if you dont' provide the entire set of material that
>you used for your comparision. That includes:
>
>       - Source code
>       - Input images
>       - Full sets of parameters
>
>
>Only in this way, other people will be able to repeat your
>evaluations and tweak them in different ways. The fact that
>each metric has many parameters makes very difficult (if not
>impossible) to define a "fair" comparison. For example, you
>are selecting for Viola Wells parameters such as :
>
>     - Number of Bins
>     - Number of Samples
>     - Standard Deviations
>
>Changes in any of those parameters will result in dramatic
>changes on the outcome of the Metric, and therefore will chage
>how this metric perform face to other metrics.
>
>
>Conclusions of the sort:
>
>               "Metric A is better than Metric B"
>
>are useless and worst of all: misleading.
>
>
>They are only of interest for writing papers in the Dark Side
>of the current publishing system where reproducibility is not
>supported or even welcomed, and where conclusions are not derived
>from ones' own experience but from subjective judgement, such as
>the ones provided by the decadent peer-review system.
>
>
>Unfortunately, those practices still percolate the entire community
>of medical image processing.
>
>
>
>    Regards,
>
>
>
>
>        Luis
>
>
>
>
>-----------------------------
>Jef Vandemeulebroucke wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>  I am testing several mutual information metrics, plotting their 
>>behavior.
>>Among the metrics are the two based on histograms:
>>  MutualInformationHistogramImageToImageMetric
>>NormalizedMutualInformationHistogramImageToImageMetric
>>  Do these metrics give better results when the images have been 
>>normalised, as it is for the Viola-Wells implementation of MI, or is this 
>>of no importance?
>>  Thank you,
>>  Jef
>>
>>
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