[ITK-dev] [ITK-users] [ITK] Migration to GitHub
Bill Lorensen
bill.lorensen at gmail.com
Tue Aug 1 12:07:27 EDT 2017
It's funny, VTK moved to gitlab to improve engagement with the VTK community.
I really don't care which is picked. I picked github for the new VTK
Wiki Examples because I thought it would be better for the community.
I argued against vtk moving to gitlab but lost...
BTW, the new VTK example site is here:
https://lorensen.github.io/VTKExamples/site/
The interface uses mkdocs and Google's material look and feel. It
performs well on desktops and mobile platforms.
On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Lowekamp, Bradley (NIH/NLM/LHC) [C]
<blowekamp at mail.nih.gov> wrote:
> Bill,
>
> I believe Matt addressed the reason in the opening post. The goal is not to make things consistent for the current developers, but to improve engagement with the ITK community. With the ITK external modules residing in GitHub, and innumerable number of project which use ITK in GitHub the ITK community is already on GitHub. The ability to link issues and pull request across projects will be quite valuable.
>
> Recently, SimpleITK has been using GitHub for issue tracking and pull request. We were quite impressed with the increased interaction with the SimpleITK community including discussion of issues, linking to other projects and pull requests.
>
> Brad
>
> On 8/1/17, 11:30 AM, "Bill Lorensen" <bill.lorensen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Since
> Paraview, VTK, VTK-m, KWIVER, and CMake are all hosted on gitlab, I
> still don't see why ITK is moving to github?
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Cory Quammen <cory.quammen at kitware.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Bill Lorensen <bill.lorensen at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Cory,
> >> I think you meant to say VTK has no plans to move to GitHub.
> >
> >
> > Yes indeed, thanks for catching ("Hu" and "La" aren't even that close on the
> > keyboard).
> >
> > VTK is firmly ensconced in GitLab, and not moving to GitHub.
> >
> >>
> >> On Aug 1, 2017 10:27 AM, "Cory Quammen" <cory.quammen at kitware.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I don't have much of an opinion on moving ITK to GitHub, but I'd like to
> >>> address some things Andras mentioned about GitLab and VTK.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> About GitHub/Kitware GitLab:
> >>>>
> >>>> I heard that VTK is going to move to GitHub, too. Maybe I misunderstood,
> >>>> but make sure to talk to VTK folks before considering moving to GitLab.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I am not aware of any plans to move VTK to GitLab or even any discussion
> >>> of doing so.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyway, as a very active user but only occasional contributor of VTK, I
> >>>> find VTK GitLab quite frustrating due to that:
> >>>> 1. It is slow. I heard that it's fast when accessed from inside Kitware
> >>>> network, but most community members are outside.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The first few versions were indeed a bit slow, but new updates come out
> >>> regularly, and the speed is quite snappy. I use it both from within the
> >>> Kitware network and outside the network and haven't noticed a difference.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. I need to re-learn each time I use it: I review code, submit PR or
> >>>> bug report once in every few months - and each time I need to spend 20-30
> >>>> minutes extra, just to find out how things work.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Andras
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Community [mailto:community-bounces at itk.org] On Behalf Of Matt
> >>>> McCormick
> >>>> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 7:00 PM
> >>>> To: Bill Lorensen <bill.lorensen at gmail.com>
> >>>> Cc: Insight-Users <insight-users at itk.org>; Hans Johnson
> >>>> <hans-johnson at uiowa.edu>; Insight Developers List
> >>>> <insight-developers at public.kitware.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [ITK] [ITK-dev] [ITK-users] Migration to GitHub
> >>>>
> >>>> I have followed VTK's migration to GitLab, and Kitware has done an
> >>>> excellent job with it. That said, I still think GitHub is the better choice
> >>>> for ITK. Also, the technical and social situation has changed in the time
> >>>> since VTK moved to GitLab.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think the key factor is "community", and GitHub has the open source
> >>>> community.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Bill Lorensen <bill.lorensen at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> > Vtk moved to GitLab. Have you checked with the Kitware folks to see
> >>>> > why they didn't use gitlab? For me, either github or gitlab is great.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Jul 31, 2017 6:03 PM, "Johnson, Hans J" <hans-johnson at uiowa.edu>
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> 1000 x +1
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> I enthusiastically support this proposal.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Hans
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> On 7/31/17, 4:57 PM, "Insight-users on behalf of Jim Miller"
> >>>> >> <insight-users-bounces at itk.org on behalf of millerjv at gmail.com>
> >>>> >> wrote:
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> +1
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Jim
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> > On Jul 31, 2017, at 5:07 PM, Matt McCormick
> >>>> >> <matt.mccormick at kitware.com> wrote:
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > Hi folks,
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > We are considering migration of ITK's software process to
> >>>> >> GitHub, and
> >>>> >> > we would like your feedback.
> >>>> >> >
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> >>>> >> communicate
> >>>> >> > and interact with the community are a high priority for ITK.
> >>>> >> > Contributing should be as easy as possible. Increasingly over
> >>>> >> the past
> >>>> >> > many years, GitHub has become the de facto place to interact
> >>>> >> for open
> >>>> >> > source development. It is now a hub for:
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > Microsoft
> >>>> >> > Facebook
> >>>> >> > Google
> >>>> >> > The Scientific Python Community
> >>>> >> > The 3D Slicer Community
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > Our InsightSoftwareConsortium GitHub organization [1] already
> >>>> >> has 67
> >>>> >> > people in it and 74 repositories. There are hundreds of
> >>>> >> projects that
> >>>> >> > depend on ITK on GitHub. Many ITK developers are familiar with
> >>>> >> the
> >>>> >> > development process on GitHub (i.e the pull request process)
> >>>> >> and
> >>>> >> > already have an account on this platform. There are also
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> >>>> >> GitHub-integrated
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> >>>> >> >
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