[ITK-dev] [ITK-users] [ITK] Migration to GitHub
Bill Lorensen
bill.lorensen at gmail.com
Tue Aug 1 11:29:37 EDT 2017
Since
Paraview, VTK, VTK-m, KWIVER, and CMake are all hosted on gitlab, I
still don't see why ITK is moving to github?
On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Cory Quammen <cory.quammen at kitware.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Bill Lorensen <bill.lorensen at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Cory,
>> I think you meant to say VTK has no plans to move to GitHub.
>
>
> Yes indeed, thanks for catching ("Hu" and "La" aren't even that close on the
> keyboard).
>
> VTK is firmly ensconced in GitLab, and not moving to GitHub.
>
>>
>> On Aug 1, 2017 10:27 AM, "Cory Quammen" <cory.quammen at kitware.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't have much of an opinion on moving ITK to GitHub, but I'd like to
>>> address some things Andras mentioned about GitLab and VTK.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> About GitHub/Kitware GitLab:
>>>>
>>>> I heard that VTK is going to move to GitHub, too. Maybe I misunderstood,
>>>> but make sure to talk to VTK folks before considering moving to GitLab.
>>>
>>>
>>> I am not aware of any plans to move VTK to GitLab or even any discussion
>>> of doing so.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, as a very active user but only occasional contributor of VTK, I
>>>> find VTK GitLab quite frustrating due to that:
>>>> 1. It is slow. I heard that it's fast when accessed from inside Kitware
>>>> network, but most community members are outside.
>>>
>>>
>>> The first few versions were indeed a bit slow, but new updates come out
>>> regularly, and the speed is quite snappy. I use it both from within the
>>> Kitware network and outside the network and haven't noticed a difference.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2. I need to re-learn each time I use it: I review code, submit PR or
>>>> bug report once in every few months - and each time I need to spend 20-30
>>>> minutes extra, just to find out how things work.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andras
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Community [mailto:community-bounces at itk.org] On Behalf Of Matt
>>>> McCormick
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 7:00 PM
>>>> To: Bill Lorensen <bill.lorensen at gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: Insight-Users <insight-users at itk.org>; Hans Johnson
>>>> <hans-johnson at uiowa.edu>; Insight Developers List
>>>> <insight-developers at public.kitware.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [ITK] [ITK-dev] [ITK-users] Migration to GitHub
>>>>
>>>> I have followed VTK's migration to GitLab, and Kitware has done an
>>>> excellent job with it. That said, I still think GitHub is the better choice
>>>> for ITK. Also, the technical and social situation has changed in the time
>>>> since VTK moved to GitLab.
>>>>
>>>> I think the key factor is "community", and GitHub has the open source
>>>> community.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Bill Lorensen <bill.lorensen at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Vtk moved to GitLab. Have you checked with the Kitware folks to see
>>>> > why they didn't use gitlab? For me, either github or gitlab is great.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Jul 31, 2017 6:03 PM, "Johnson, Hans J" <hans-johnson at uiowa.edu>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 1000 x +1
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I enthusiastically support this proposal.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hans
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 7/31/17, 4:57 PM, "Insight-users on behalf of Jim Miller"
>>>> >> <insight-users-bounces at itk.org on behalf of millerjv at gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> +1
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Jim
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > On Jul 31, 2017, at 5:07 PM, Matt McCormick
>>>> >> <matt.mccormick at kitware.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Hi folks,
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > We are considering migration of ITK's software process to
>>>> >> GitHub, and
>>>> >> > we would like your feedback.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > As an open-source, community-driven project, mechanisms to
>>>> >> communicate
>>>> >> > and interact with the community are a high priority for ITK.
>>>> >> > Contributing should be as easy as possible. Increasingly over
>>>> >> the past
>>>> >> > many years, GitHub has become the de facto place to interact
>>>> >> for open
>>>> >> > source development. It is now a hub for:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Microsoft
>>>> >> > Facebook
>>>> >> > Google
>>>> >> > The Scientific Python Community
>>>> >> > The 3D Slicer Community
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Our InsightSoftwareConsortium GitHub organization [1] already
>>>> >> has 67
>>>> >> > people in it and 74 repositories. There are hundreds of
>>>> >> projects that
>>>> >> > depend on ITK on GitHub. Many ITK developers are familiar with
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> > development process on GitHub (i.e the pull request process)
>>>> >> and
>>>> >> > already have an account on this platform. There are also
>>>> >> advantages to
>>>> >> > linking issues and commits with other projects and
>>>> >> repositories.
>>>> >> Since
>>>> >> > ITK thrives on the open-source development idea, everyone who
>>>> >> wants to
>>>> >> > help the project should be able to contribute, and therefore it
>>>> >> should
>>>> >> > be as easy as possible to start participating in the community.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Recently, GitHub's code review capabilities have greatly
>>>> >> improved,
>>>> >> > which make it more feasible to coordinate contributions for a
>>>> >> large
>>>> >> > project like ITK. And, there are many existing
>>>> >> GitHub-integrated
>>>> >> > services that we can leverage.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Thanks to resources from the National Library of Medicine and
>>>> >> > technological advances, it is now feasible to migrate the
>>>> >> project's
>>>> >> > software process to GitHub. There are many infrastructural
>>>> >> aspects to
>>>> >> > the migration, and it would take multiple months to complete.
>>>> >> Please
>>>> >> > let us know your thoughts before we embark on the journey.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > [1]
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