[Insight-developers] ITK 4.4 release candidate cycles about to begin

Wed May 8 16:48:47 EDT 2013

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Bill Lorensen <bill.lorensen at gmail.com> wrote:
> I still think we can green up the dashboard. We went through this with VTK.
> They was a lot of griping in the beginning and a lot of excuses, but the
> community pulled together and did it. That took months, but VTK was in much
> worse shape. I would hole that of we tag an RC, that we make greening a
> priority before the final release.

Agreed.

Thanks,
Matt

>
> Bill
>
>
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Matt McCormick <matt.mccormick at kitware.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I agree with Hans.  There are bugs, but there are *always* bugs, at
>> least in corner cases for reasonably complex software.  And, ITK is
>> more than reasonably complex.  A completely green dashboard does not
>> mean there are not bugs, either -- it just means the bugs are not
>> showing up on the dashboard.
>>
>> I started a new section of the dashboard called "Expected Nightly
>> Exotic", and I have moved Nightly builds there for configurations that
>> are a work in progress in terms of build errors, warnings, and test
>> failures.  The "Expected Nightly" contains the most used
>> configurations.  Builds can be moved from "Expected Nightly Exotic" to
>> "Expected Nightly" after they become green.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Matt
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Johnson, Hans J <hans-johnson at uiowa.edu>
>> wrote:
>> > As a counter argument:
>> >
>> > The bug tracker has over 400 issues of *known* problems, some of which
>> > have
>> > been there for many years.  In my opinion, we need a release that
>> > provides
>> > ABSOLUTELY NO problems in the core, and explicit acknowledgment that
>> > corner
>> > case issues are EXPLICITLY going to be addressed in the next release.
>> >
>> > There are certainly some red items that need to be addressed, but much
>> > of
>> > the red on the dashboard are compilers and computer environments that we
>> > can
>> > not replicate.  Many of the failures are test timeouts on machines that
>> > we
>> > do not have control of making faster.  Some of the most troublesome
>> > dashboards are ones that build with Wrapping.  In my opinion, wrapping
>> > does
>> > not have a sufficient user/developer community to justify holding up a
>> > release.
>> >
>> > I would really like to see the dashboard have two nightly expected
>> > sections.
>> > 1) A part that covers the CORE part of ITK that has development support
>> > and
>> > covers the 10-15 environments that are "most" used, and 2) community
>> > contributed parts that have more advanced and specialized builds (i.e.
>> > wrapping, fftw, GPU, VTK, OpenCV).
>> >
>> > Hans
>> >
>> >
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>> >
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>> >
>> > From: Bill Lorensen <bill.lorensen at gmail.com>
>> > Date: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 8:33 AM
>> > To: David Cole <dlrdave at aol.com>
>> > Cc: ITK <insight-developers at itk.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [Insight-developers] ITK 4.4 release candidate cycles about
>> > to
>> > begin
>> >
>> > +1
>> >
>> > On Wednesday, May 8, 2013, David Cole wrote:
>> >>
>> >> All of them...
>> >>
>> >> Otherwise, you’re intentionally releasing software that has *known*
>> >> problems in it.
>> >>
>> >> Quality is more important than an exactly on-time schedule.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Just one opinion, I’m sure...
>> >> D
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: Matt McCormick
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 7, 2013 11:08 PM
>> >> To: Bill Lorensen
>> >> Cc: ITK
>> >>
>> >> Hi Bill,
>> >>
>> >> What are the red issues that need to be resolved?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Matt
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Bill Lorensen
>> >> <bill.lorensen at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > I think the dashboard is too red to tag a release candidate.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:52 PM, Matt McCormick
>> >> > <matt.mccormick at kitware.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> As a reminder, the ITK 4.4 release candidate cycle is about to
>> >> >> begin.
>> >> >> Please have any remaining ENH: patches that have code reviews and
>> >> >> clean CDash at Home builds merged by the end of the day, Friday.  The
>> >> >> first RC will be tagged on Monday.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks,
>> >> >> Matt
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