[Insight-developers] ITKModular dash board

[Bradley Lowekamp]

Bill,

I have mixed feeling about the new layout.

The old one was too big, and people didn't look at all of it. With the modular size, I think more people will look at the whole summary. 

However, it does involve  more clicks. So when cdash is slow its going to hurts extra, I am optimistic that the new server will may the interface snappy, so that clicking through is not  as painful as it currently is. So that there will be more of an interactive experience.

I also can't find things. For example I don't know where KWSyle is suppose to show up. Hopefully, I'll be able to pick these things up quickly, but there is just ALOT going on right now to keep track of it all and learn new tools too.

Brad

On Apr 19, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Bill Lorensen wrote:

> Seems I can only use the old one if people submit to the old one.
> 
> Maybe it is too early to switch over to this new format. I'll be
> interested to see how others feel about this format. After a trial
> period, if the consensus is that the modular format is better, then we
> should move all of the builds to modular. If the consensus is that the
> modular needs more work, then we should move all of the builds back.
> 
> I'm concerned that the ITK community (outside of Kitware) had no input
> into this new presentation.
> 
> Bill
> 
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 12:15 PM, David Cole <david.cole at kitware.com> wrote:
>> It is one extra click from the "page that is most equivalent to the old way"
>> to get to test results.
>> 
>> The easiest way to provide a page like the old one is ... to use the old
>> one.
>> 
>> The next easiest way is to make new pages that present information from "all
>> related builds" rather than just one build. This will take some time and
>> effort on the part of folks working on CDash, though, and is not something
>> that will appear in the short term.
>> 
>> I think once you get used to clicking down into the subprojects page, you'll
>> see that it's really easy to tell where errors and test failures are without
>> even clicking through to them anymore. The modular organization, and sorting
>> problem areas to the top (which will happen by default in "nightly" sections
>> after we update the CDash server) will really make it quite easy to pinpoint
>> the problems. The hard part, as always, is getting all of us to fix
>> everything that's going wrong.
>> 
>> What would be a super nice feature is this: sorting through all the stuff
>> automatically, and presenting a summary of "types of things that went wrong"
>> and their frequency. The dashboard summary as an "auto-prioritized to do"
>> list has been talked about before, but we haven't yet come up with an easy
>> way to implement it, given the diverse set of platforms and build
>> environments we support.
>> 
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Bill Lorensen <bill.lorensen at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dave,
>>> 
>>> To be honest, as someone who has been looking at dashboards every day
>>> since the first dashboard, I do not care for this layout. Is it really
>>> meant for a system like ITK, where the modules are "internal" or is it
>>> meant for a system make up of sub systems, like Slicer?
>>> 
>>> I'll have a better assessment as I try to use it in the next weeks.
>>> This is just my gut reaction.
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Bill Lorensen <bill.lorensen at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Seems like a lot more clicking.
>>>> 
>>>> I'll have to explore more.
>>>> 
>>>> Is there any way to provide a page like the old one?
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:46 AM, David Cole <david.cole at kitware.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Because they represent a summary of many builds, (each subproject has
>>>>> its
>>>>> own build and test results) and we do not have very many multiple-build
>>>>> view
>>>>> pages in CDash.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The queryTests example I sent is one of the few examples of a page that
>>>>> does
>>>>> show results from more than one build.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We will definitely need more of these types of pages in CDash moving
>>>>> forward, but that would be new functionality that is not there yet...
>>>>> ======================



On Apr 19, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Bill Lorensen wrote:
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Bradley Lowekamp  
Lockheed Martin Contractor for
Office of High Performance Computing and Communications
National Library of Medicine 
blowekamp at mail.nih.gov


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