[Ctk-developers] Fwd: IGT software collaboration intro meeting

Sat Nov 28 15:33:28 UTC 2015

We could also add a VRPN interface to Plus, which would allow clients to access all VRPN-supported devices through OpenIGTLink protocol.

Andras
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From: Andras Lasso<mailto:lasso at queensu.ca>
Sent: ‎2015-‎11-‎28 09:04
To: Andinet Enquobahrie<mailto:andinet.enqu at kitware.com>; Steve Pieper<mailto:pieper at isomics.com>
Cc: ctk-developers at commontk.org<mailto:ctk-developers at commontk.org>
Subject: RE: [Ctk-developers] Fwd: IGT software collaboration intro meeting

OpenIGTLink is becoming widely used in robotics projects, with participation of various robotics companies and research groups, so support of device positioning and force feedback is already good and will further improve in OpenIGTLink. Junichi/BWH recently received NIH funding to work on this.

The CISST library already can be used as an OpenIGTLink-PhantomOmni bridge, but support for the device could be certainly added to Plus, too. If you have a device and a developer that could add a new Device class to Plus, we would be happy to help.

Andras
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From: Andinet Enquobahrie<mailto:andinet.enqu at kitware.com>
Sent: ‎2015-‎11-‎28 07:52
To: Steve Pieper<mailto:pieper at isomics.com>; Andras Lasso<mailto:lasso at queensu.ca>
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Subject: Re: [Ctk-developers] Fwd: IGT software collaboration intro meeting

Steve,

Thanks for the heads up! It looks like a very interesting project. It is great to see our old friends from SINTEF joining in the effort. We will try to join in the Google hangout on December 7.

Andras,

For our tracking needs, we obviously use PLUS a lot and we will continue to do that in our IGT projects.

For our surgical simulation projects, we use force feedback haptics devices such as Phantom Omni and we have been looking into  VRPN

https://github.com/vrpn/vrpn/wiki

VRPN supports a large collection of haptic devices

https://github.com/vrpn/vrpn/wiki/Supported%20hardware%20devices

But, looking at the large list of devices PLUS continues to support

https://www.assembla.com/spaces/plus/wiki

I was wondering if force feedback haptics devices support is also in the roadmap.

thanks,
Andinet

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Steve Pieper <pieper at isomics.com<mailto:pieper at isomics.com>> wrote:
Hi CTKers -

Just FYI about discussions we are having leading up to project week in January.  Anyone who's interested is welcome to join.

-Steve

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From: Andras Lasso <lasso at queensu.ca<mailto:lasso at queensu.ca>>
Date: Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 9:23 PM
Subject: RE: IGT software collaboration intro meeting
To: Christian Askeland <Christian.Askeland at sintef.no<mailto:Christian.Askeland at sintef.no>>, Simon Drouin <drouin.simon at gmail.com<mailto:drouin.simon at gmail.com>>, Junichi Tokuda <tokuda at bwh.harvard.edu<mailto:tokuda at bwh.harvard.edu>>, Steve Pieper <pieper at isomics.com<mailto:pieper at isomics.com>>, Tamas Ungi <ungi at queensu.ca<mailto:ungi at queensu.ca>>, Adam Rankin <arankin at robarts.ca<mailto:arankin at robarts.ca>>
Cc: "Kapur, Tina,Ph.D." <TKAPUR at bwh.harvard.edu<mailto:TKAPUR at bwh.harvard.edu>>, "Norton, Isaiah" <inorton at bwh.harvard.edu<mailto:inorton at bwh.harvard.edu>>, Alireza Mehrtash <alireza.mehrtash at gmail.com<mailto:alireza.mehrtash at gmail.com>>, Prashin Unadkat <unadkatprashin at gmail.com<mailto:unadkatprashin at gmail.com>>, "tormod.selbekk at sintef.no<mailto:tormod.selbekk at sintef.no>" <tormod.selbekk at sintef.no<mailto:tormod.selbekk at sintef.no>>, Janne Beate Lervik Bakeng <Janne.Beate.Lervik.Bakeng at sintef.no<mailto:Janne.Beate.Lervik.Bakeng at sintef.no>>, Ingerid Reinertsen <Ingerid.Reinertsen at sintef.no<mailto:Ingerid.Reinertsen at sintef.no>>, Thomas Langø <Thomas.Lango at sintef.no<mailto:Thomas.Lango at sintef.no>>, Frank Lindseth <Frank.Lindseth at sintef.no<mailto:Frank.Lindseth at sintef.no>>, "D. Louis Collins" <louis.collins at mcgill.ca<mailto:louis.collins at mcgill.ca>>, Gabor Fichtinger <fichting at queensu.ca<mailto:fichting at queensu.ca>>

Hi all,

Thanks for the very productive meeting today. I’ve uploaded the meeting minutes to the NAMIC week’s project page (thanks to Christian for the inputs):

http://www.na-mic.org/Wiki/index.php/2016_Winter_Project_Week:TrackedUltrasoundStandardization

We plan to have one or two more similar meetings before the project week to continue the discussion.

For all those who plan to attend the project week: please request an account at the NAMIC wiki (http://www.na-mic.org/Wiki/index.php/Special:RequestAccount). It’ll allow you to register to the event, edit the project page, etc.

Andras

From: Andras Lasso
Sent: November 19, 2015 6:06 PM
To: Christian Askeland <Christian.Askeland at sintef.no<mailto:Christian.Askeland at sintef.no>>; Simon Drouin <drouin.simon at gmail.com<mailto:drouin.simon at gmail.com>>; 'Junichi Tokuda' <tokuda at bwh.harvard.edu<mailto:tokuda at bwh.harvard.edu>>; Steve Pieper <pieper at isomics.com<mailto:pieper at isomics.com>>; Thomas Langø <Thomas.Lango at sintef.no<mailto:Thomas.Lango at sintef.no>>; Frank Lindseth <Frank.Lindseth at sintef.no<mailto:Frank.Lindseth at sintef.no>>; D. Louis Collins <louis.collins at mcgill.ca<mailto:louis.collins at mcgill.ca>>; Tamas Ungi <ungi at queensu.ca<mailto:ungi at queensu.ca>>; Gabor Fichtinger <fichting at queensu.ca<mailto:fichting at queensu.ca>>
Subject: IGT software collaboration intro meeting

Hi all,

Thanks for the doodle poll responses. Based on those, November 23, Monday, 9am EST (probably 3pm Norway time) is the most suitable.

You should be able to join the meeting through the google hangout link on this page:
https://plus.google.com/events/ceo6eum5ja3rhjgjed29eiu67b8?authkey=COHXmfavj620Fg

This will be an informal meeting to get to know each other and define priorities for the next couple of months, in preparation for the project week in January.

Andras

From: Andras Lasso
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:04 PM
To: Christian Askeland <Christian.Askeland at sintef.no<mailto:Christian.Askeland at sintef.no>>; Simon Drouin <drouin.simon at gmail.com<mailto:drouin.simon at gmail.com>>
Cc: Thomas Langø <Thomas.Lango at sintef.no<mailto:Thomas.Lango at sintef.no>>; Frank Lindseth <Frank.Lindseth at sintef.no<mailto:Frank.Lindseth at sintef.no>>; Gabor Fichtinger <fichting at queensu.ca<mailto:fichting at queensu.ca>>; Ron Kikinis (kikinis at bwh.harvard.edu<mailto:kikinis at bwh.harvard.edu>) <kikinis at bwh.harvard.edu<mailto:kikinis at bwh.harvard.edu>>; Karilee Whiteway <karilee.whiteway at queensu.ca<mailto:karilee.whiteway at queensu.ca>>; D. Louis Collins <louis.collins at mcgill.ca<mailto:louis.collins at mcgill.ca>>
Subject: RE: EU Twinning Programme /Objectives

Hi all,

Christian, thanks for the great summary of topics, these would all serve as good basis of collaboration and convergence in IGT software.

We’ve recently had a discussion at Montreal Neurological Institute (Louis D Collins’ group: Simon Drouin, Ian Gerard, Marta Kersten, et al.), they are also very interested in integrating/migrating their software to 3DSlicer-SlicerIGT-Plus, share algorithms, etc, and they, too, will come to the project week to Boston in January.

I would suggest to have a teleconference to introduce ourselves to each other and discuss what topics we should focus on first. Christian, Simon (and everyone else interested in this Project week planning meeting), please mark your availability in this doodle poll:
http://doodle.com/poll/9u5vqbtr4qk6famg

Thanks,
Andras

From: Christian Askeland [mailto:Christian.Askeland at sintef.no]
Sent: November 17, 2015 1:05 PM
To: Andras Lasso <lasso at queensu.ca<mailto:lasso at queensu.ca>>
Cc: Thomas Langø <Thomas.Lango at sintef.no<mailto:Thomas.Lango at sintef.no>>; Frank Lindseth <Frank.Lindseth at sintef.no<mailto:Frank.Lindseth at sintef.no>>; Gabor Fichtinger <fichting at queensu.ca<mailto:fichting at queensu.ca>>; Ron Kikinis (kikinis at bwh.harvard.edu<mailto:kikinis at bwh.harvard.edu>) <kikinis at bwh.harvard.edu<mailto:kikinis at bwh.harvard.edu>>; Karilee Whiteway <karilee.whiteway at queensu.ca<mailto:karilee.whiteway at queensu.ca>>
Subject: Re: EU Twinning Programme /Objectives

Hi Andras, Gabor, all,

Your suggesion regarding EU Twinning Programme came at the perfect time for me - I was just about to send you, Andras, an email regarding the Winter Project Week in January. We have discussed a bit in an email thread originating in the OpenIGTLink list some weeks ago, I’ll continue from there.

Our group will be present in Boston with 1-2 software people, so it would be great to start the work there, and then continue in Heidelberg and beyond. We would like to work in integration of CustusX+PLUS, and on IGT standardization in general. I hope both of these topics are of interest to you. In Boston we will focus the work on CustusX+PLUS, but we can also discuss standardization (also including the Slicer people and others) and then focus more on this in Heidelberg, as I imagine this topic will need time to mature.

Below is a quick first draft of my thoughts. Andras, please iterate and/or suggest topics.

Proposal for cooperation projects  PerkLab/PLUS group, SINTEF/CustusX group, (+ others).

Enhance connection of CustusX client to PLUS server:
Background: CustusX has used PLUS to connect to an Ultrasonix scanner with an attached tracking device from Ascension (Sonix GPS), as part of the EU RASimAs project. CustusX also has tracking support from the IGSTK toolkit, and own direct support for a number of video/US devices. We would like to add PLUS to this family, poosibly replacing some of our older components.

Topics:
• Tracking of BrainLab devices.
• Connection to BK medical scanners.
• Enhance transfer of US probe metadata. Might include extending the OpenIGTLink standard.
• Use of PLUS US reconstruction algorithms in CustusX as an alternative to CX internal algorithms, and enable comparison of algorithms.

Standardization of IGT software.
Background:
• Emails, major players converge towards IGTLink. Several groups are using PLUS and/or Slicer, but also open-sourcing their own software and want to be compatible with each other.
• Data should be usable by several systems in order to ease comparison in e.g. studies.
• Our group need to communicate models and volumes with Slicer, and would like to use PLUS.

There are several areas where standardization would be beneficial:
• messaging between applications.
• file formats.
• algorithms/shared libraries.
It is important to build as much as possible on existing material and de facto standards.

Topics:
• Messaging: OpenIGTLink is the de facto standard for messaging. Is the standard complete? What do we need? US-probe data, polydata colors, volume transfer functions /LUTs.
• File Formats:  Models, Volumes, Video streams, US metadata, scenegraph. Some of these objects are already somewhat standardized, but not all.
• Algorithms: A library of IGT algorithms would be welcome. It might be included into an existing library (VTK, CTK, …) or emerge as a new one.

Best Regards
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Christian Askeland
Senior Software Engineer / Research Scientist, MSc.
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SINTEF Medical Technology
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