[ITK] [ITK-dev] [ITK-users] Migration to GitHub
Cory Quammen
cory.quammen at kitware.com
Tue Aug 1 11:22:38 EDT 2017
On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Bill Lorensen <bill.lorensen at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Cory,
> I think you meant to say VTK has no plans to move to GitHub.
>
Yes indeed, thanks for catching ("Hu" and "La" aren't even that close on
the keyboard).
VTK is firmly ensconced in GitLab, and not moving to GitHub.
> On Aug 1, 2017 10:27 AM, "Cory Quammen" <cory.quammen at kitware.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't have much of an opinion on moving ITK to GitHub, but I'd like to
>> address some things Andras mentioned about GitLab and VTK.
>>
>>
>>> About GitHub/Kitware GitLab:
>>>
>>> I heard that VTK is going to move to GitHub, too. Maybe I misunderstood,
>>> but make sure to talk to VTK folks before considering moving to GitLab.
>>
>>
>> I am not aware of any plans to move VTK to GitLab or even any discussion
>> of doing so.
>>
>>
>>> Anyway, as a very active user but only occasional contributor of VTK, I
>>> find VTK GitLab quite frustrating due to that:
>>> 1. It is slow. I heard that it's fast when accessed from inside Kitware
>>> network, but most community members are outside.
>>>
>>
>> The first few versions were indeed a bit slow, but new updates come out
>> regularly, and the speed is quite snappy. I use it both from within the
>> Kitware network and outside the network and haven't noticed a difference.
>>
>>
>>> 2. I need to re-learn each time I use it: I review code, submit PR or
>>> bug report once in every few months - and each time I need to spend 20-30
>>> minutes extra, just to find out how things work.
>>
>>
>>> Andras
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Community [mailto:community-bounces at itk.org] On Behalf Of Matt
>>> McCormick
>>> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 7:00 PM
>>> To: Bill Lorensen <bill.lorensen at gmail.com>
>>> Cc: Insight-Users <insight-users at itk.org>; Hans Johnson <
>>> hans-johnson at uiowa.edu>; Insight Developers List <
>>> insight-developers at public.kitware.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [ITK] [ITK-dev] [ITK-users] Migration to GitHub
>>>
>>> I have followed VTK's migration to GitLab, and Kitware has done an
>>> excellent job with it. That said, I still think GitHub is the better choice
>>> for ITK. Also, the technical and social situation has changed in the time
>>> since VTK moved to GitLab.
>>>
>>> I think the key factor is "community", and GitHub has the open source
>>> community.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Bill Lorensen <bill.lorensen at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Vtk moved to GitLab. Have you checked with the Kitware folks to see
>>> > why they didn't use gitlab? For me, either github or gitlab is great.
>>> >
>>> > On Jul 31, 2017 6:03 PM, "Johnson, Hans J" <hans-johnson at uiowa.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> 1000 x +1
>>> >>
>>> >> I enthusiastically support this proposal.
>>> >>
>>> >> Hans
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 7/31/17, 4:57 PM, "Insight-users on behalf of Jim Miller"
>>> >> <insight-users-bounces at itk.org on behalf of millerjv at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> +1
>>> >>
>>> >> Jim
>>> >>
>>> >> > On Jul 31, 2017, at 5:07 PM, Matt McCormick
>>> >> <matt.mccormick at kitware.com> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Hi folks,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > We are considering migration of ITK's software process to
>>> >> GitHub, and
>>> >> > we would like your feedback.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > As an open-source, community-driven project, mechanisms to
>>> >> communicate
>>> >> > and interact with the community are a high priority for ITK.
>>> >> > Contributing should be as easy as possible. Increasingly over
>>> >> the past
>>> >> > many years, GitHub has become the de facto place to interact
>>> >> for open
>>> >> > source development. It is now a hub for:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Microsoft
>>> >> > Facebook
>>> >> > Google
>>> >> > The Scientific Python Community
>>> >> > The 3D Slicer Community
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Our InsightSoftwareConsortium GitHub organization [1] already
>>> has 67
>>> >> > people in it and 74 repositories. There are hundreds of
>>> >> projects that
>>> >> > depend on ITK on GitHub. Many ITK developers are familiar with
>>> the
>>> >> > development process on GitHub (i.e the pull request process) and
>>> >> > already have an account on this platform. There are also
>>> >> advantages to
>>> >> > linking issues and commits with other projects and repositories.
>>> >> Since
>>> >> > ITK thrives on the open-source development idea, everyone who
>>> >> wants to
>>> >> > help the project should be able to contribute, and therefore it
>>> >> should
>>> >> > be as easy as possible to start participating in the community.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Recently, GitHub's code review capabilities have greatly
>>> improved,
>>> >> > which make it more feasible to coordinate contributions for a
>>> large
>>> >> > project like ITK. And, there are many existing GitHub-integrated
>>> >> > services that we can leverage.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thanks to resources from the National Library of Medicine and
>>> >> > technological advances, it is now feasible to migrate the
>>> project's
>>> >> > software process to GitHub. There are many infrastructural
>>> >> aspects to
>>> >> > the migration, and it would take multiple months to complete.
>>> Please
>>> >> > let us know your thoughts before we embark on the journey.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
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>> --
>> Cory Quammen
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