To provide more details:<br> <br><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"> Slicer3: The meshing module is using </span><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">vtk3DWidget. The probability of changing the version of VTK associated with Slicer3 is closed to zero.<br>
<br></span> Slicer4: No widget are derived from <span style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">vtk3DWidget. The meshing module has been removed will need work to be re-integrated if it happens.<br><br>As far as Slicer is concerned, it's a green light to rename this class.<br>
<br>If there are any other rename that would make VTK more consistent, easier to maintain and understand. After discussing the change, I am sure we can accommodate.<br><br>Thanks<br>Jc<br></span><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Karthik Krishnan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:karthik.krishnan@kitware.com">karthik.krishnan@kitware.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>I agree with Wes. Again, not to be too vocal....</div><div><br></div><div>I don't vote for
<span style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">vtk3DWidget </span>being renamed. Despite it being an old generation widgets that we don't recommend folks derive from, but the fact remains that there are a few widgets in VTK that derive from it. There are a lot of widgets in Slicer (<20) and VolView (>10) that derive from it. These are examples from just 2 applications.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I don't support Tcl wrapping being dropped. There are still a lot of apps under active development out there relying on VTK being wrappable from Tcl (BioImageSuite, VolView, SCIRun, MIPS to name a few). It hasn't been long since Slicer made the switch either.</div>
<div><br></div><div>These are all large applications, with a large user base and important customers of VTK. Don't you think a stand that: "If these applications want to continue using VTK, they shouldn't upgrade" is a bit harsh. </div>
<div><br></div><div>thx</div><div>--</div><div>karthik</div><div><br></div><div><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 1:47 AM, David E DeMarle <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dave.demarle@kitware.com" target="_blank">dave.demarle@kitware.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">And I _will_ add text to the download page to make it clear what that<br>
binary is because you are entirely right that it shouldn't be the<br>
first thing newbies try.<br>
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</div><div><div></div><div>On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 4:12 PM, David E DeMarle<br>
<<a href="mailto:dave.demarle@kitware.com" target="_blank">dave.demarle@kitware.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> That is an old school 32bit windows tcl interpreter with the tcl<br>
> wrapped vtk libs preloaded. Use it by typing in vtk tcl scripts there,<br>
> or just pass tcl scripts as filenames to that executable to run them<br>
> without the shell. (Back when I was a young lad, and when Will and<br>
> Bill were still old men, that was the _easy_ way to learn VTK. Ah<br>
> those were the days, even if we did have to walk five miles in the<br>
> snow to get to grad school.)<br>
><br>
> My plan for this release is to keep it the same as before. I hope to<br>
> find the time to make and post the vtkpython equivalent of that<br>
> executable for mac, linux and windows, but I am not going to hold up<br>
> the release release for them.<br>
><br>
> For 6.0 we at least want the python exes, will probably drop the tcl<br>
> exe, and will try to make a proper SDK so that you don't need to<br>
> compile vtk to make c++ apps that use it.<br>
><br>
> David E DeMarle<br>
> Kitware, Inc.<br>
> R&D Engineer<br>
> 21 Corporate Drive<br>
> Clifton Park, NY 12065-8662<br>
> Phone: <a href="tel:518-881-4909" value="+15188814909" target="_blank">518-881-4909</a><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 3:45 PM, David Doria <<a href="mailto:daviddoria@gmail.com" target="_blank">daviddoria@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> On a related note, every Windows user I have suggested VTK to has gone<br>
>> to this page:<br>
>> <a href="http://vtk.org/VTK/resources/software.html#latest2" target="_blank">http://vtk.org/VTK/resources/software.html#latest2</a><br>
>><br>
>> and been extremely confused about what they get with the "Windows<br>
>> (Installer) : vtk-5.8.0-win32-x86.exe". I just downloaded and<br>
>> installed it on a Windows machine, and when I run "VTK" from the start<br>
>> menu (the only thing that appears to be an option), I get a blank<br>
>> terminal window and a blank gray widget with no further<br>
>> instructions/explanation - indeed very confusing!<br>
>><br>
>> My understanding is that this is some sort of TCL-only binary package?<br>
>> My suggestion would be to remove this from the download page entirely,<br>
>> or at least bury it so it is not the first thing you see and so it<br>
>> doesn't look like what you should download as a new user. It should be<br>
>> immediately clear that VTK is intended to be used as a library, not a<br>
>> standalone application.<br>
>><br>
>> David<br>
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