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    Utkarsh, Berk,<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite">It makes sense to me too.</blockquote>
    Good, I will file a bug report so this doesn't get lost.<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite">Having said that, wouldn't it be better to
      go to the next step and use a frozen Python?</blockquote>
    Anything to improve the scalability of python would be huge and
    worth looking into.<br>
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    NERSC maintains python and thing like mpi4py, numpy, matplotlib,
    etc. They chose to add the later stuff externally to their base
    python install (maybe it doesn't matter). When I build ParaView I
    have those modules loaded and cmake finds things as it needs. When I
    run ParaView I load the modules to bring the right
    versions/components into the environment.<br>
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    I'm unfamiliar with freezing python and how it would work with
    pvserver, pvbatch, or pvpython. Question: how/what do we freeze in
    the pvserver case?<br>
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    Thanks<br>
    Burlen<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/06/2015 12:19 PM, Berk Geveci
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      <div dir="ltr">It makes sense to me too.
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        <div>Having said that, wouldn't it be better to go to the next
          step and use a frozen Python? If all of the commonly used
          Python modules are frozen to the build, loading them will
          become much faster. The solution that you are proposing only
          defers the cost to later. Given that we are depending on
          Python more and more, I'd like to see it be usable everywhere.</div>
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        <div>Best,</div>
        <div>-berk</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Utkarsh
          Ayachit <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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          wrote:<br>
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              class="">> I think in the case of ParaView's matplotlib
              tex features the run time check<br>
              > for matplotlib could probably be deferred until
              someone actually tries to<br>
              > use tex. What do you think? This would help keep
              startup time fast.<br>
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            </span>That makes total sense to me.<br>
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