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Wed Oct 7 22:37:18 EDT 2009
lding Mesa,, both Xlib and DRI make use of the X11 libraries, but it is my =
understanding that if you build mesa with the
--with-driver=3Dosmesa
Then the offending glx* linkage will not be necessary. You will get a libOS=
Mesa instead of libGL - but you simply tell VTK to use that one instead of =
libGL. (Pat's tweaks may also be required to stop vtkXRenderwindow stuff be=
ing pulled in).
I haven't actually tried this, but I'd like to be proved right or wrong so =
that I know for future reference.
JB
* Xlib - This is the default mode for building Mesa. It uses Xlib as a s=
oftware renderer to do all rendering. It corresponds to the option --with-d=
river=3Dxlib. The libX11 and libXext libraries, as well as the X11 developm=
ent headers, will be need to support the Xlib driver.
* DRI - This mode uses the DRI hardware drivers for accelerated OpenGL r=
endering. Enable the DRI drivers with the option --with-driver=3Ddri. See t=
he basic installation instructions<http://www.mesa3d.org/install.html> for =
details on prerequisites for the DRI drivers.
* OSMesa - No libGL is built in this mode. Instead, the driver code is b=
uilt into the Off-Screen Mesa (OSMesa) library. See the Off-Screen Renderin=
g<http://www.mesa3d.org/osmesa.html> page for more details.
From: paraview-bounces at paraview.org [mailto:paraview-bounces at paraview.org] =
On Behalf Of pat marion
Sent: 24 February 2010 21:33
To: Moreland, Kenneth
Cc: ParaView
Subject: Re: [Paraview] Compiling without X11 libraries
Sorry I misread your email, you don't want to create X11 windows at all. Y=
ou want to do pure osmesa. So then you'll be all set if you follow the hac=
ks I describe. By the way, when I compile osmesa, for pure offscreen, I ju=
st run 'make linux-osmesa' and the result is libOSMesa.so and libGLU.so.
Pat
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 3:29 PM, pat marion <pat.marion at kitware.com<mailto:=
pat.marion at kitware.com>> wrote:
Hi Ken,
Below is copy and paste from a previous email where I answered a similar qu=
estion off-list (your question is a little different because you want to us=
e Mesa3D to create windows). Unfortunately you can't do this without some =
small hacks to the cmakelists. I think the important part for you is in th=
e last paragraph.
----------
Using true offscreen means using vtkOSOpenGLRenderWindow and not vtkXOpenGL=
RenderWindow. Which one is used depends on whether or not VTK_USE_OSMESA i=
s defined in $build_dir/VTK/vtkToolkits.h.
VTK_USE_OSMESA is defined when:
* OPENGL_gl_LIBRARY is set to the empty string
* VTK_USE_X is OFF
* VTK_OPENGL_HAS_OSMESA is true
If the platform is Linux, and cmake is able to locate X11 libraries & heade=
rs, then cmake will force VTK_USE_X to ON. You must hack VTK/CMake/vtkUseX=
.cmake to set it to OFF.
Look at the bottom of $build_dir/VTK/vtkToolkits.h to make sure that you ha=
ve successfully defined VTK_USE_OSMESA.
If you are doing a shared build, and OPENGL_gl_LIBRARY is the empty string,=
then you will get link errors because of some changes that were introduced=
after the transitive linking patch last June. To avoid that, you need to =
change all instances of ${OPENGL_gl_LIBRARY} to ${OSMESA_LIBRARY} in all CM=
akeLists.txt except for VTK/Rendering/CMakeLists.txt or VTK/CMakeLists.txt.
Pat
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Moreland, Kenneth <kmorel at sandia.gov<mailt=
o:kmorel at sandia.gov>> wrote:
I do have PARAVIEW_BUILD_GT_GUI off, but I still need rendering. I still n=
eed to create OpenGL windows, but I will only ever do it through OSMesa, ne=
ver through X11.
-Ken
On 2/24/10 1:02 PM, "Dave Partyka" <dave.partyka at kitware.com<http://dave.pa=
rtyka at kitware.com>> wrote:
I am not sure about ParaView but in VTK if you turn rendering off you shoul=
d be able to do this. Have you tried turning PARAVIEW_BUILD_QT_GUI off? I d=
o that when I generate the command line tools package on Mac OSX.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Moreland, Kenneth <kmorel at sandia.gov<http:=
//kmorel at sandia.gov>> wrote:
Is there any way to compile ParaView without any X11 libraries at all? I c=
ompiled OSMesa support for Mesa 3D and tried to link that, but when I link =
I am missing a bunch of glX* symbols. I think that in order to build these=
functions for Mesa, I need an X11 library, which gets me back to the dilem=
ma of what if you have no libraries?
-Ken
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Ken<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>From the Mesa web pages ...(snip below), there are 3 driver
options for building Mesa,, both Xlib and DRI make use of the X11 libraries=
,
but it is my understanding that if you build mesa with the <o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><code><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>--with-driver=
=3Dosmesa<o:p></o:p></span></code></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Then the offending glx* linkage will not be necessary. You w=
ill get
a libOSMesa instead of libGL – but you simply tell VTK to use that on=
e
instead of libGL. (Pat’s tweaks may also be required to stop
vtkXRenderwindow stuff being pulled in).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I haven’t actually tried this, but I’d like to b=
e
proved right or wrong so that I know for future reference.<o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>JB<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><a name=3Dxlib><b><i>Xlib</i></b></a> - This =
is the
default mode for building Mesa. It uses Xlib as a software renderer to=
do
all rendering. It corresponds to the option <span style=3D'font-size:1=
0.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>--with-driver=3Dxlib</span>. The libX11 and
libXext libraries, as well as the X11 development headers, will be nee=
d to
support the Xlib driver. <o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><a name=3Ddri><b><i>DRI</i></b></a> - This mo=
de
uses the DRI hardware drivers for accelerated OpenGL rendering. Enable=
the
DRI drivers with the option <span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:
"Courier New"'>--with-driver=3Ddri</span>. See the <a
href=3D"http://www.mesa3d.org/install.html">basic installation instruc=
tions</a>
for details on prerequisites for the DRI drivers. <o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto;
mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><a name=3Dosmesa><b><i>OSMesa</i></b></a> - N=
o
libGL is built in this mode. Instead, the driver code is built into th=
e
Off-Screen Mesa (OSMesa) library. See the <a
href=3D"http://www.mesa3d.org/osmesa.html">Off-Screen Rendering</a> pa=
ge for
more details. <o:p></o:p></li>
</ul>
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:auto'><o:p> </o:p></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-siz=
e:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> paraview-bounces at paraview.org
[mailto:paraview-bounces at paraview.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>pat marion<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 24 February 2010 21:33<br>
<b>To:</b> Moreland, Kenneth<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ParaView<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Paraview] Compiling without X11 libraries<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Sorry I misread your em=
ail, you
don't want to create X11 windows at all. You want to do pure
osmesa. So then you'll be all set if you follow the hacks I
describe. By the way, when I compile osmesa, for pure offscreen, I ju=
st
run 'make linux-osmesa' and the result is libOSMesa.so and libGLU.so.<br>
<br>
Pat<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 3:29 PM, pat marion <<a
href=3D"mailto:pat.marion at kitware.com">pat.marion at kitware.com</a>> wrote=
:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi Ken,<br>
<br>
Below is copy and paste from a previous email where I answered a similar
question off-list (your question is a little different because you want to =
use
Mesa3D to create windows). Unfortunately you can't do this without so=
me
small hacks to the cmakelists. I think the important part for you is =
in
the last paragraph.<br>
<br>
----------<br>
<br>
Using true offscreen means using vtkOSOpenGLRenderWindow and not
vtkXOpenGLRenderWindow. Which one is used depends on whether or not
VTK_USE_OSMESA is defined in $build_dir/VTK/vtkToolkits.h.<br>
<br>
VTK_USE_OSMESA is defined when:<br>
<br>
* OPENGL_gl_LIBRARY is set to the empty string<br>
* VTK_USE_X is OFF<br>
* VTK_OPENGL_HAS_OSMESA is true<br>
<br>
If the platform is Linux, and cmake is able to locate X11 libraries &
headers, then cmake will force VTK_USE_X to ON. You must hack
VTK/CMake/vtkUseX.cmake to set it to OFF.<br>
<br>
Look at the bottom of $build_dir/VTK/vtkToolkits.h to make sure that you ha=
ve
successfully defined VTK_USE_OSMESA.<br>
<br>
If you are doing a shared build, and OPENGL_gl_LIBRARY is the empty string,
then you will get link errors because of some changes that were introduced
after the transitive linking patch last June. To avoid that, you need=
to
change all instances of ${OPENGL_gl_LIBRARY} to ${OSMESA_LIBRARY} in all
CMakeLists.txt except for VTK/Rendering/CMakeLists.txt or VTK/CMakeLists.tx=
t.<br>
<span style=3D'color:#888888'><br>
<br>
Pat<br>
<br>
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal>On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Moreland, Kenneth <=
;<a
href=3D"mailto:kmorel at sandia.gov" target=3D"_blank">kmorel at sandia.gov</a>&g=
t;
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0c=
m 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;
margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif"'>I
do have PARAVIEW_BUILD_GT_GUI off, but I still need rendering. I stil=
l
need to create OpenGL windows, but I will only ever do it through OSMesa, n=
ever
through X11.<br>
<br>
-Ken<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:11.0pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br>
<br>
<br>
On 2/24/10 1:02 PM, "Dave Partyka" <<a
href=3D"http://dave.partyka@kitware.com" target=3D"_blank">dave.partyka at kit=
ware.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif"'>I
am not sure about ParaView but in VTK if you turn rendering off you should =
be
able to do this. Have you tried turning PARAVIEW_BUILD_QT_GUI off? I d=
o
that when I generate the command line tools package on Mac OSX.<br>
<br>
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Moreland, Kenneth <<a
href=3D"http://kmorel@sandia.gov" target=3D"_blank">kmorel at sandia.gov</a>&g=
t;
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
"sans-serif"'>Is
there any way to compile ParaView without any X11 libraries at all? I
compiled OSMesa support for Mesa 3D and tried to link that, but when I link=
I
am missing a bunch of glX* symbols. I think that in order to build th=
ese
functions for Mesa, I need an X11 library, which gets me back to the dilemm=
a of
what if you have no libraries?<br>
<br>
-Ken</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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