[Paraview-developers] VTK xml formats with external geometry references

Berk Geveci berk.geveci at kitware.com
Mon Feb 19 11:00:33 EST 2018


Hi Mark,

Depending on how much code you want to write and what you want to do with
files, this is doable.

0. For unstructured grids, the Exodus format supports this out of box.

1. The simplest solution past Exodus would probably be to write some simple
Python reader that manages arrays from various files. This could easily
support any format. You would simple have some files that have geometry,
others that have arrays...

2. If you want a single file, the .vtx formats actually support time with
the option of some arrays not changing over time. At least partially. This
was done a long time ago and would have to be update to the new time
support. I can provide some guidance if necessary. I am not sure if it
would work with the .pvtx

3. If you want multiple files, the pvd reader can be updated to support
this. Someone had done this years ago but their changes never made into
upstream.

4. The FileSeries reader now supports a json based metafile. That reader
can be update to do this as well. It is probably an easier piece of code
than the pvd one and it would work with other formats.



On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 3:38 PM, Mark Olesen <Mark.Olesen at esi-group.com>
wrote:

> I realize this discussion pops up at regular intervals, but I haven't seen
> it for a while and I have some use cases that would really need it.
>
> Seeing that there are multiblock and parallel VTK file formats such as
> .vtm, .pvtp, .pvtu serving as collections for externally defined data, I
> was wondering if it would be feasible to use a similar idea to hold the
> geometry separate from the cell/point data?
> AFAIK this isn't really something that the normal (eg, vtp, vtu) formats
> support, but something that would really help me.
>
> A fairly common situation is sampling to predefined surface that is reused
> for different times and for different fields. At the moment I have the
> choice of writing geometry+data for each sampled field at each time value.
> This can lead to fairly excessive disk usage.
>
> To avoid this duplicate geometry, I would need a complete (non-trivial)
> rewrite of my sampling. But even after that I would still have geometry
> duplication if the geometry is not changing in time. I also lose the
> ability to easily remove unneeded fields a posteriori.
>
> The desired meta-format might look like this:
>
> <VTKFile type="XXXUnstructuredGrid"...>
>   <XXXUnstructuredGrid>
>     <Piece file="abc.vtu" NumberOfPoints="1000" NumberOfCells="10">
>       <CellData Name="p" format="file" file="abc_p.dvtu"/>
>       <CellData Name="T" format="file" file="abc_T.dvtu"/>
>       <CellData Name="conc0" format="file" file="abc_scalar.dvtu"/>
>       <CellData Name="conc1" format="file" file="abc_scalar.dvtu"/>
>       <CellData Name="conc2" format="file" file="abc_scalar.dvtu"/>
>       <CellData Name="conc3" format="file" file="abc_scalar.dvtu"/>
>     </Piece>
>   </XXXUnstructuredGrid>
> </VTKFile>
>
> This is somewhat like a pvtu file, but with the geometry and data being
> able to reside in separate files.
>
> The "abc.vtu" base geometry is just a regular VTU file with or without an
> fields.
>
> The "abc_T.dvtu" (dvtu for a data vtu) has data but no geometry. For
> sanity checks it should have the basic sizing information (NumberOfPoints,
> NumberOfCells). To be thoroughly redundant, I guess a geometry file could
> also be specifically named in the respective dvtu file.
>
> Is there any thing within the current framework that could be easily
> leveraged to solve such a problem, and is such a way that it eventually be
> part of the VTK file-format collections. Is there actually a VTK format
> that already fits the bill and I just haven't found it?
> I know that the EnSight format covers many of these points, but a pure VTK
> solution is what I'm looking for since it would be important to have
> parallel file format output as per PUnstructuredGrid etc.
>
> Cheers,
> /mark
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