<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Dear Herman,</div><br class=""><div class="">We certainly understand your interest in using GSoC to re-start MolView - that's one of the goals of Google in running GSoC is to foster open source development. And we have an interest in the broader scope of open source chemistry. (A good browser-based editor would be a very nice tool.)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The problem is that GSoC is a very specific program from Google. To be honest, we do not set up the rules or even pick student projects. We *recommend* student proposals to Google, who ultimately makes the final decision. Beyond questions on the license, there *must* be a specific mentor for a project. While we encourage students to propose new projects, we still have to find a good fit with a mentor.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">We have no mentors familiar with your code, nor with Dart.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you wanted to propose a project for browser-based 3D editing using 3Dmol.js or Avogadro, that's a completely different thing - we have mentors that can serve.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">But even a truly outstanding proposal without a mentor will not be selected by Google. And it's not just one mentor - Google wants to see an organization like OpenChemistry have a pool of ~2x mentors as students (e.g., mentors travel and take vacations too).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I haven't looked - does Dart have a summer program? I think you can propose "unattached" projects through a catch-all Google organization too.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best regards,</div><div class="">-Geoff</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 1, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Herman Bergwerf <<a href="mailto:hermanbergwerf@gmail.com" class="">hermanbergwerf@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Dear Marcus,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Although changing the license is not the primary problem for me, there are indeed no other people involved in this project for a role as mentor. There is another project that is currently consuming my time and when a friend gave me a heads up about GSoC I thought it might be a way to start MolView development again, not so much as it turns out.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thanks for your response anyway, and good luck with GSoC.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards,</div><div class="">Herman Bergwerf</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="">Op za 1 apr. 2017 om 15:48 schreef Marcus D. Hanwell <<a href="mailto:marcus.hanwell@kitware.com" class="">marcus.hanwell@kitware.com</a>>:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">Hi Herman,<div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">I don't see a good fit here for a few reasons, first and foremost being that a student cannot mentor themselves. The Open Chemistry organization is formed around a number of projects where we know and have worked with the projects/mentors for quite a few years (in loose online forms in some cases, but still). This enables us to build up a level of trust, and enough overlap such that we have good confidence that we can offer the good experience for the students and mentors.</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">Finally, we favor permissive, OSI-approved licenses in general that encourage reuse in the wider context. While there are some exceptions for historic reasons I think as a group that is the direction we (and certainly I) would like to follow. The AGPL is very much in the opposite direction, which is your project's choice but I don't feel it is well aligned with our organization.</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">I wish you well in your endeavors to develop MolView, but as stated I don't see a good fit. Even if there were we decided on included projects in the organization proposal period, were selected on our proposal, and intend to offer the projects with the mentor group originally proposed.</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">Yours sincerely,</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">Marcus<br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg">--<br clear="all" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-8731971142984005831gmail_signature gmail_msg" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Marcus D. Hanwell, Ph.D.<br class="gmail_msg">Technical Leader, Kitware Inc.<br class="gmail_msg"><a href="tel:(518)%20881-4937" value="+15188814937" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">(518) 881-4937</a></div></div>
<br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg"></div></div></div></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg">On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Herman Bergwerf <span dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><<a href="mailto:hermanbergwerf@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">hermanbergwerf@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"></div></div></div></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><span style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-size:13px" class="gmail_msg">Hi,</span><div class="m_-8731971142984005831m_-4248571933302415745gmail_msg gmail_msg" style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-size:13px"><br class="m_-8731971142984005831m_-4248571933302415745gmail_msg gmail_msg"></div><div class="m_-8731971142984005831m_-4248571933302415745gmail_msg gmail_msg" style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-size:13px">I am Herman Bergwerf, developer of<span class="m_-8731971142984005831m_-4248571933302415745inbox-inbox-Apple-converted-space gmail_msg"> </span><a href="http://molview.org/" class="m_-8731971142984005831m_-4248571933302415745gmail_msg gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://molview.org</a>. I have a fairly simple question. Would it be possible to sign up my development on<span class="m_-8731971142984005831m_-4248571933302415745inbox-inbox-Apple-converted-space gmail_msg"> </span><a href="http://molview.org/" class="m_-8731971142984005831m_-4248571933302415745gmail_msg gmail_msg" target="_blank">molview.org</a><span class="m_-8731971142984005831m_-4248571933302415745inbox-inbox-Apple-converted-space gmail_msg"> </span>for GSoC under the Open Chemistry organization?</div><div class="m_-8731971142984005831m_-4248571933302415745gmail_msg gmail_msg" style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-size:13px"><br class="m_-8731971142984005831m_-4248571933302415745gmail_msg gmail_msg"></div><div class="m_-8731971142984005831m_-4248571933302415745gmail_msg gmail_msg" style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-size:13px">I developed MolView in highschool and have been looking into improving it. Last year I did a failed attempt at building an architecture from scratch. Basically I started of a little too enthusiastic and wrote a completely modular, message based frontend architecture that was intended to be super modular. But after almost a year of working on this I decided I was going nuts and discarded it. However a lot is to be done. I almost get emails weekly about people enthusiastic about MolView or requesting new features. An old roadmap of ideas is here: <a href="https://github.com/molview/molview-1st-gen/wiki/Roadmap" class="m_-8731971142984005831m_-4248571933302415745gmail_msg gmail_msg" target="_blank">https://github.com/molview/molview-1st-gen/wiki/Roadmap</a>. I created mockups for a new, even more immersive user interface more than a year ago (<a href="http://blog.molview.org/posts/2015/07/23/material-design/" class="m_-8731971142984005831m_-4248571933302415745gmail_msg gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://blog.molview.org/posts/2015/07/23/material-design/</a>). I abandoned development on MolView almost a year ago in favor of working on some other projects (also OSS). However I still retain interest in MolView. It is open source (AGPL) and so far developed on 0$ funding (except for my own funding to pay for hosting, and I hate ads so never added them). In the past 3/4 years MolView has been visited over 400.000 times by more than 230.000 unique users. In the past years I developed an interest in the Dart language. I would love to rebuild MolView from scratch in Dart, implementing the new user interface (as shown in the mockups), along with a set of new features (more embedding options, OBJ export for 3D printing, DNA sequence viewer, etc.), and drastically improving the code (compared to now I was a very bad coder back in highschool ;-D).</div><div class="m_-8731971142984005831m_-4248571933302415745gmail_msg gmail_msg" style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-size:13px"><br class="m_-8731971142984005831m_-4248571933302415745gmail_msg gmail_msg"></div><div class="m_-8731971142984005831m_-4248571933302415745gmail_msg gmail_msg" style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-size:13px">I know MolView is not officially a open chemistry project (I'm not sure how the organization works), but it would be really awesome if I can work on MolView this summer while also making some money. If this is possible I can write a proposal with a list of technologies, the basic architecture, and an initial set of features.</div><div class="m_-8731971142984005831m_-4248571933302415745gmail_msg gmail_msg" style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-size:13px"><br class="m_-8731971142984005831m_-4248571933302415745gmail_msg gmail_msg"></div><div class="m_-8731971142984005831m_-4248571933302415745gmail_msg gmail_msg" style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-size:13px">Thanks!</div><span class="gmail_msg m_-8731971142984005831HOEnZb"><font color="#888888" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-8731971142984005831m_-4248571933302415745gmail_msg gmail_msg" style="color:rgb(33,33,33);font-size:13px">Herman Bergwerf</div></font></span></div>
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