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Hi Mike,<br>
<br>
Thank you for your reply.<br>
I had also found the first link you sent, but didn't manage to
properly configure Condor with password authetication. <br>
I will follow your advice and contact the Condor mailing list.<br>
<br>
Thank you for your help !<br>
Best regards,<br>
Sorina<br>
<br>
Le 04/03/2014 16:21, Michael Grauer a écrit :<br>
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<blockquote
cite="mid:CAKx26+Fs3U7QkcQ7QeVtdPxOpAAYHpqU6HTE+2Pvnt+NrqU8GA@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Hi Sorina,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I never had to deal with the
SHADOW_ALLOW_UNSAFE_REMOTE_EXEC property, but I had been using
Condor 7.4.4, and you are using a newer version. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I Googled around a bit on your error message, and saw a
couple posts that might help. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Also, looking at the top of your attached condor.sched.log
file I see (but haven't Googled for this) </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Courier
New',Courier,monospace;font-size:14.399999618530273px">3/03/14
18:09:56 authenticate_self_gss: acquiring self credentials
failed. Please check your Condor configuration file if this
is a server process. Or the user environment variable if
this is a user process.</span><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Courier
New',Courier,monospace;font-size:14.399999618530273px"><br>
</span></div>
<div>And there may be more helpful hints below that message in
the file. Together these suggest it is some authentication
configuration problem, perhaps looking at these posts and
checking the condor reference for this configuration might
help.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www-auth.cs.wisc.edu/lists/htcondor-users/2013-February/msg00129.shtml">https://www-auth.cs.wisc.edu/lists/htcondor-users/2013-February/msg00129.shtml</a><br>
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<div><br>
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<div>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.distributed.condor.user/27728">http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.distributed.condor.user/27728</a><br>
</div>
<div><br>
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<div><br>
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<div>You can also email the condor mailing list, I have done so
in the past and the community has been quite helpful. Before
you do this, I suggest you get this down to the simplest
possible example, as all of the Midas/BatchMake stuff may just
add confusion. Can you try a very simple example where you
take a single PHP file and try to do a condor_submit_dag with
it in the same way that the challenge module does? If you can
repeat the problem with that test case, and then doing the
same thing successfully as the apache user will give an easier
problem to describe and get help with.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Let us know how it goes, and good luck!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Mike</div>
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New',Courier,monospace;font-size:14.399999618530273px"><br>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 9:46 AM,
Sorina Camarasu Pop <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sorina.pop@creatis.insa-lyon.fr"
target="_blank">sorina.pop@creatis.insa-lyon.fr</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div><br>
Hello again,<br>
<br>
I've discovered an interesting config option within
condor: the SHADOW_ALLOW_UNSAFE_REMOTE_EXEC seems to
allow shell calls via the libc 'system()' function. Is
it something any of you have already used in order to
allow calls with the Midas executor->exec ?<br>
<br>
I tried to put it on and use the Condor shadow daemon,
but I get an error saying "Assertion ERROR on
(job_ad_file)" at line 166 in file
shadow_v61_main.cpp" ...<br>
<br>
So before going into the trouble of trying to solve
this error, I was wondering if you know about this
"shadow" config option and if you can confirm it is
necessary.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Sorina<br>
<br>
Le 03/03/2014 18:44, Sorina Camarasu Pop a écrit :<br>
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<div class="h5">
<blockquote type="cite">
<div><br>
<br>
Le 03/03/2014 18:06, Michael Grauer a écrit :<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Where did you see the message: "<span
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.800000190734863px">"DC_AUTHENTICATE:
authentication of
<xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:59888> did not result
in a valid mapped user name, which is
required for this command (1112
QMGMT_WRITE_CMD), so aborting."</span></div>
</blockquote>
<br>
In the condor log :
/home/condor/localcondor/log/SchedLog<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Was there
any other output included there?</font></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
I copied parts of the log file in the attached
file containing the output printed both when using
batchmake and directly condor commands.<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Do you
have a "condor" user on your VM? </font></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
Yes.<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"> When you
successfully run jobs by doing
"condor_submit_dag" from the command line
as the apache user, </font></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
apache 22773 29731 0 18:18 ? 00:00:00
condor_scheduniv_exec.26.0 -f -l . -Lockfile
challenge.dagjob.lock -AutoRescue 1 -DoRescueFrom
0 -Dag challenge.dagjob -CsdVersion
$CondorVersion: 7.9.1 Aug 24 2012 PRE-RELEASE-UWCS
$ -Force -Dagman /bin/condor_dagman<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif">when you
watch your job run with ps or top, which
user runs the actual execution process
(whatever job batchmake will run for you)
? <br>
</font></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
When launching it with <font face="arial,
sans-serif">batchmake (through the web
interface) I do not manage to to get the
corresponding condor process... I only get a
httpd process run by apache....</font><br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Can you
include your "challenge.bms" script in an
email? <br>
</font></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
Of course, here it is attached.<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br>
</font></div>
<div>Can you show me the output of "ls" from a
directory where the submit failed and then
again from one where the submit succeeded,
at the end of the job processing run?</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
Failed :<br>
ls -la 52/<br>
total 56<br>
drwxrwxr-x 3 apache apache 4096 3 mars 18:25 .<br>
drwxr-xr-x 35 apache apache 4096 3 mars 18:25 ..<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 140 3 mars 18:25
adminconfig.cfg<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 355 3 mars 18:25
challenge.0.dagjob<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 332 3 mars 18:25
challenge.1.dagjob<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 564 3 mars 18:25
challenge.2.dagjob<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 355 3 mars 18:25
challenge.3.dagjob<br>
lrwxrwxrwx 1 apache apache 56 3 mars 18:25
challenge.bms ->
/var/www/miccai4/modules/challenge/library/challenge.bms<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 1473 3 mars 18:25
challenge.config.bms<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 1593 3 mars 18:25
challenge.dagjob<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 1043 3 mars 18:25
challenge.dagjob.condor.sub<br>
lrwxrwxrwx 1 apache apache 70 3 mars 18:25
challenge_validator_app.bms ->
/var/www/miccai4/modules/challenge/library/challenge_validator_app.bms<br>
drwxrwxr-x 4 apache apache 4096 3 mars 18:25
data<br>
lrwxrwxrwx 1 apache apache 50 3 mars 18:25
PHP.bmm ->
/var/www/miccai4/modules/challenge/library/PHP.bmm<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 138 3 mars 18:25
userconfig.cfg<br>
lrwxrwxrwx 1 apache apache 67 3 mars 18:25
ValidateImageAveDist.bmm ->
/var/www/miccai4/modules/challenge/library/ValidateImageAveDist.bmm<br>
<br>
<br>
OK (created by matchmake and relaunched by hand):<br>
-bash-4.2$ ls -la 48<br>
total 104<br>
drwxrwxr-x 3 apache apache 4096 3 mars 18:18 .<br>
drwxr-xr-x 35 apache apache 4096 3 mars 18:25
..<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 140 3 mars 18:09
adminconfig.cfg<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 0 3 mars 18:13
bmGrid.0.error.txt<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 1968 3 mars 18:18
bmGrid.0.log.txt<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 148 3 mars 18:18
bmGrid.0.out.txt<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 355 3 mars 18:09
challenge.0.dagjob<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 332 3 mars 18:09
challenge.1.dagjob<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 564 3 mars 18:09
challenge.2.dagjob<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 355 3 mars 18:09
challenge.3.dagjob<br>
lrwxrwxrwx 1 apache apache 56 3 mars 18:09
challenge.bms ->
/var/www/miccai4/modules/challenge/library/challenge.bms<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 1473 3 mars 18:09
challenge.config.bms<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 1593 3 mars 18:09
challenge.dagjob<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 1042 3 mars 18:18
challenge.dagjob.condor.sub<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 610 3 mars 18:18
challenge.dagjob.dagman.log<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 16074 3 mars 18:18
challenge.dagjob.dagman.out<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 256 3 mars 18:18
challenge.dagjob.dot<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 0 3 mars 18:18
challenge.dagjob.lib.err<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 29 3 mars 18:18
challenge.dagjob.lib.out<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 970 3 mars 18:18
challenge.dagjob.nodes.log<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 243 3 mars 18:18
challenge.dagjob.rescue001<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 243 3 mars 18:13
challenge.dagjob.rescue001.old<br>
lrwxrwxrwx 1 apache apache 70 3 mars 18:09
challenge_validator_app.bms ->
/var/www/miccai4/modules/challenge/library/challenge_validator_app.bms<br>
drwxrwxr-x 4 apache apache 4096 3 mars 18:09
data<br>
lrwxrwxrwx 1 apache apache 50 3 mars 18:09
PHP.bmm ->
/var/www/miccai4/modules/challenge/library/PHP.bmm<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 138 3 mars 18:09
userconfig.cfg<br>
lrwxrwxrwx 1 apache apache 67 3 mars 18:09
ValidateImageAveDist.bmm ->
/var/www/miccai4/modules/challenge/library/ValidateImageAveDist.bmm<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">I'm not sure what is going on,
just trying to get more context...
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I recall I ran into a problem where one
machine was the submitter, and there was a
midas user there, with uid 100, and a midas
user on another machine (the execution node)
with a uid 200, and I got what sounded like
a similar message--I had to make sure their
uids were the same across machines to deal
with permissions across an NFS mount on both
machines. This sounds nothing like your
problem, but I wanted to include it in case
it gives you any ideas.</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
Thank you for the hint. <br>
My problem seems to be similar, in the sense that
it looks like a user problem. However, I do not
manage to find the difference between the 2
potential users : apache and who else ?...<br>
<br>
I noticed in the condor log (the one attached) the
following line :<br>
03/03/14 18:39:34 ATTEMPT_ACCESS: Switching to
user uid: 48 gid: 48.<br>
uid 48 does corerspond to apache. What surprises
me is that the log prints out "Switching to user
uid: 48". That means that till that moment it is
executed as some other user ?...<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Can you explain more about the library
issues you ran into earlier that prevented
you from running jobs?</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
I don't remember exactly, but I spent quite some
time on that one too.<br>
In that case, jobs were submitted, but stayed idle
: if I remember correctly, there was some library
preventing one of the condor daemons from
launching/executing correctly. I really don't
think this could be connected...<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
Sorina<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Mike</div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br>
</font></div>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 3, 2014
at 11:50 AM, Sorina Camarasu Pop <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sorina.pop@creatis.insa-lyon.fr"
target="_blank">sorina.pop@creatis.insa-lyon.fr</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<div>Hi Mike,<br>
<br>
Thank you for your prompt reply.<br>
<br>
Le 03/03/2014 17:27, Michael Grauer a
écrit :<br>
</div>
<div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Hi Sorina,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>These are tough to track
down. <br>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
I know, I've spent my afternoon on it...
<div><br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Can you tell me more about
your environment? Specifically,
the 3 machines (possibly all the
same machine) that are your
condor submit, condor manager,
and condor execute nodes? <br>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
I use the same machine (virtual machine
configured as a dual core) for my condor
submit, condor manager, and condor
execute nodes.
<div><br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>What operating system is your
web server, and what version of
Condor are you using? </div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
Fedora 18.<br>
For Condor, I had compiled the latest
version available, but had some library
problems preventing me from launching
any job. I finally had it work with the
version available for yum install :<br>
condor_version<br>
$CondorVersion: 7.9.1 Aug 24 2012
PRE-RELEASE-UWCS $<br>
$CondorPlatform: X86_64-Fedora_18 $
<div><br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div> Is your condor submit node
the same as your web server
(most likely yes)?</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
yes.
<div><br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Are you running your web
server as the apache user (most
likely yes), </div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
Yes, I even printed out "whoami" to
check that it really runs as apache.
<div><br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>and is it your web server
that is calling the php code
that results in
condor_dag_submit (most likely
yes, again) ? </div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
Yes. <br>
I use the "standard" batchmake config,
i.e. the condorSubmitDag function from
KWBatchmakeComponent.php
<div><br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Can you show the permissions
and ownership of the temporary
work directory where the
condor_dag_submit command is
executed?</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
ls -la<br>
...<br>
drwxrwxr-x 3 apache apache 4096 3
mars 16:53 45<br>
drwxrwxr-x 3 apache apache 4096 3
mars 17:41 46<br>
<br>
-bash-4.2$ cd 46<br>
-bash-4.2$ ls -la<br>
total 92<br>
drwxrwxr-x 3 apache apache 4096 3
mars 17:41 .<br>
drwxr-xr-x 29 apache apache 4096 3
mars 17:40 ..<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 140 3
mars 17:40 adminconfig.cfg<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 apache apache 0 3
mars 17:41 bmGrid.0.error.txt<br>
lrwxrwxrwx 1 apache apache 56 3
mars 17:40 challenge.bms ->
/var/www/miccai4/modules/challenge/library/challenge.bms<br>
...
<div><br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>When you tested as the apache
user, did you do this test from
the same temporary work
directory that Midas/apache
would have tried this from?</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
Yes, from folder
/var/www/miccai4/tmp/misc/batchmake/tmp/SSP/7/46
(drwxrwxr-x , owned by apache)
<div><br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Is there any more information
in the logs or error logs
generated by Condor in the temp
work directory that you could
share?</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
tail -f challenge.dagjob.condor.sub<br>
# Note: default on_exit_remove
expression:<br>
# ( ExitSignal =?= 11 || (ExitCode =!=
UNDEFINED && ExitCode >=0
&& ExitCode <= 2))<br>
# attempts to ensure that DAGMan is
automatically<br>
# requeued by the schedd if it exits
abnormally or<br>
# is killed (e.g., during a reboot).<br>
on_exit_remove = ( ExitSignal =?= 11 ||
(ExitCode =!= UNDEFINED &&
ExitCode >=0 && ExitCode
<= 2))<br>
copy_to_spool = False<br>
arguments = "-f -l . -Lockfile
challenge.dagjob.lock -AutoRescue 1
-DoRescueFrom 0 -Dag challenge.dagjob
-CsdVersion $CondorVersion:' '7.9.1'
'Aug' '24' '2012' 'PRE-RELEASE-UWCS' '$
-Dagman /usr/bin/condor_dagman"<br>
environment =
_CONDOR_DAGMAN_LOG=challenge.dagjob.dagman.out;_CONDOR_MAX_DAGMAN_LOG=0<br>
queue<br>
<br>
tail -f challenge.0.dagjob<br>
# More information at: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.batchmake.org"
target="_blank">http://www.batchmake.org</a><br>
Universe = vanilla<br>
Output = bmGrid.0.out.txt<br>
Error = bmGrid.0.error.txt<br>
Log = bmGrid.0.log.txt<br>
Notification = NEVER<br>
Executable = /usr/bin/php<br>
Arguments = "'--version'"<br>
Queue 1<br>
<br>
I hope this can help with debugging the
problem...<br>
<br>
Thank you,<br>
Sorina
<div><br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Mike</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon,
Mar 3, 2014 at 11:16 AM,
Sorina Camarasu Pop <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sorina.pop@creatis.insa-lyon.fr"
target="_blank">sorina.pop@creatis.insa-lyon.fr</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote
class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear
Midas users and developers,<br>
<br>
I am trying to configure
Midas with the Challenge and
BatchMake modules, but I
encounter problems when
executing the
condor_submit_dag command.<br>
<br>
The error printed by Condor
when executing the
condor_submit_dag command
using the Batchmake module
looks like this :
"DC_AUTHENTICATE:
authentication of
<xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:59888>
did not result in a valid
mapped user name, which is
required for this command
(1112 QMGMT_WRITE_CMD), so
aborting."<br>
<br>
Nevertheless, if I execute
exactly the same command
line as apache in a console,
everything works fine. My
condor I do not understand
where the difference comes
from.<br>
<br>
Do you know if there's any
special configuration for
Condor to work with the
Batchmake module ?<br>
<br>
Thank you for your help,<br>
Sorina<span><font
color="#888888"><br>
<br>
-- <br>
Sorina Pop, PhD<br>
CNRS Research Engineer<br>
CREATIS<br>
Tel : <a
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href="tel:%2B33%20%280%294%2072%2043%2072%2099" value="+33472437299"
target="_blank">+33
(0)4 72 43 72 99</a><br>
<br>
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href="mailto:Midas@public.kitware.com" target="_blank">Midas@public.kitware.com</a><br>
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href="http://public.kitware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/midas"
target="_blank">http://public.kitware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/midas</a><br>
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CNRS Research Engineer
CREATIS
Tel : <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%2B33%20%280%294%2072%2043%2072%2099" value="+33472437299" target="_blank">+33 (0)4 72 43 72 99</a></pre>
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-- <br>
Thanks,<br>
Michael Grauer<br>
R & D Engineer<br>
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