<div dir="ltr">I don't have much of an opinion on moving ITK to GitHub, but I'd like to address some things Andras mentioned about GitLab and VTK.<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
About GitHub/Kitware GitLab:<br>
<br>
I heard that VTK is going to move to GitHub, too. Maybe I misunderstood, but make sure to talk to VTK folks before considering moving to GitLab. </blockquote><div><br></div><div>I am not aware of any plans to move VTK to GitLab or even any discussion of doing so.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Anyway, as a very active user but only occasional contributor of VTK, I find VTK GitLab quite frustrating due to that:<br>
1. It is slow. I heard that it's fast when accessed from inside Kitware network, but most community members are outside.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>The first few versions were indeed a bit slow, but new updates come out regularly, and the speed is quite snappy. I use it both from within the Kitware network and outside the network and haven't noticed a difference.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
2. I need to re-learn each time I use it: I review code, submit PR or bug report once in every few months - and each time I need to spend 20-30 minutes extra, just to find out how things work.</blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 7:00 PM<br>
To: Bill Lorensen <<a href="mailto:bill.lorensen@gmail.com">bill.lorensen@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: Insight-Users <<a href="mailto:insight-users@itk.org">insight-users@itk.org</a>>; Hans Johnson <<a href="mailto:hans-johnson@uiowa.edu">hans-johnson@uiowa.edu</a>>; Insight Developers List <<a href="mailto:insight-developers@public.kitware.com">insight-developers@public.<wbr>kitware.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [ITK] [ITK-dev] [ITK-users] Migration to GitHub<br>
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I have followed VTK's migration to GitLab, and Kitware has done an excellent job with it. That said, I still think GitHub is the better choice for ITK. Also, the technical and social situation has changed in the time since VTK moved to GitLab.<br>
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I think the key factor is "community", and GitHub has the open source community.<br>
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On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 6:42 PM, Bill Lorensen <<a href="mailto:bill.lorensen@gmail.com">bill.lorensen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
</span>> Vtk moved to GitLab. Have you checked with the Kitware folks to see<br>
<div><div class="h5">> why they didn't use gitlab? For me, either github or gitlab is great.<br>
><br>
> On Jul 31, 2017 6:03 PM, "Johnson, Hans J" <<a href="mailto:hans-johnson@uiowa.edu">hans-johnson@uiowa.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> 1000 x +1<br>
>><br>
>> I enthusiastically support this proposal.<br>
>><br>
>> Hans<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 7/31/17, 4:57 PM, "Insight-users on behalf of Jim Miller"<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:insight-users-bounces@itk.org">insight-users-bounces@itk.org</a> on behalf of <a href="mailto:millerjv@gmail.com">millerjv@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> +1<br>
>><br>
>> Jim<br>
>><br>
>> > On Jul 31, 2017, at 5:07 PM, Matt McCormick<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:matt.mccormick@kitware.com">matt.mccormick@kitware.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Hi folks,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > We are considering migration of ITK's software process to<br>
>> GitHub, and<br>
>> > we would like your feedback.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > As an open-source, community-driven project, mechanisms to<br>
>> communicate<br>
>> > and interact with the community are a high priority for ITK.<br>
>> > Contributing should be as easy as possible. Increasingly over<br>
>> the past<br>
>> > many years, GitHub has become the de facto place to interact<br>
>> for open<br>
>> > source development. It is now a hub for:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Microsoft<br>
>> > Facebook<br>
>> > Google<br>
>> > The Scientific Python Community<br>
>> > The 3D Slicer Community<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Our InsightSoftwareConsortium GitHub organization [1] already has 67<br>
>> > people in it and 74 repositories. There are hundreds of<br>
>> projects that<br>
>> > depend on ITK on GitHub. Many ITK developers are familiar with the<br>
>> > development process on GitHub (i.e the pull request process) and<br>
>> > already have an account on this platform. There are also<br>
>> advantages to<br>
>> > linking issues and commits with other projects and repositories.<br>
>> Since<br>
>> > ITK thrives on the open-source development idea, everyone who<br>
>> wants to<br>
>> > help the project should be able to contribute, and therefore it<br>
>> should<br>
>> > be as easy as possible to start participating in the community.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Recently, GitHub's code review capabilities have greatly improved,<br>
>> > which make it more feasible to coordinate contributions for a large<br>
>> > project like ITK. And, there are many existing GitHub-integrated<br>
>> > services that we can leverage.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Thanks to resources from the National Library of Medicine and<br>
>> > technological advances, it is now feasible to migrate the project's<br>
>> > software process to GitHub. There are many infrastructural<br>
>> aspects to<br>
>> > the migration, and it would take multiple months to complete. Please<br>
>> > let us know your thoughts before we embark on the journey.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
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