[Insight-developers] [Fwd: [Insight-users] Gradient filter problems]

Luis Ibanez luis.ibanez@kitware.com
Fri, 03 May 2002 12:55:29 -0400


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Damion,

Isn't this the kind of thing that can be done with Core atoms ?

He seems to be looking for a cylindrical shape in an image.


Luis

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Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 12:17:10 -0400

I think you want a fold detector which would find one response for your
features.  I don't think ITK has one.  Perhaps that is a gap that should 
be filled?

-----Original Message-----
From: Bjorn Hanch Sollie [mailto:bhs@pvv.org]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:48 AM
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Subject: [Insight-users] Gradient filter problems


Hi all,

I find that when I use the GradientMagnitudeImageFilter I obtain
double edges in the filtered picture.  For example single line
(typically about one pixel wide in the data I'm working with) turns
into two lines in the output image, one line on either side of where
the actual line is.

The result of this is that when I do edge detection on a volume of a
rather thin pipe-shaped structure, the filtered image contains one
pipe within the other, and this makes it significantly harder to
segment the picture afterwards.

I assume the filter "sees" the pixel-wide line as two transitions,
from dark to light to dark, for example, thus producing two edges
rather than one, but this makes little sense for my application,
unfortunately, and I've seen other similar filters producing only one
edge in this instance.

So, what I want is an edge-detection filter where the detected edges
are actually in the same place as the boundaries I'm interested in.
It isn't really obvious to me why the GradientMagnitudeImageFilter
doesn't do this in the first place, so if I'm really looking for
another filter, I'd be happy if someone can point me in the right
direction.

-Bjorn
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