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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I've openned new issue for further
discussion:<br>
* <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/ruslo/CMake/issues/3">https://github.com/ruslo/CMake/issues/3</a><br>
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On 18-Mar-16 06:24, Tamás Kenéz wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Ruslo, I think we all could argue both against and
for implementing cmake-ini files inside the cmake command. I
mean I'm also aware of all the pros and cons. It's just that we
weigh differently.
<div>I like loosely connected simpler building blocks and my own
cmake-wrapping extension script works fine, that's why I
thought you would not lose anything with that.</div>
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<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">>> git commit
--author="John Doe" --email=</span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:john.doe@example.com" target="_blank"
style="font-size:12.8px">"john.doe@example.com"</a><span
style="font-size:12.8px"> --branch="master"</span><br
style="font-size:12.8px">
<span style="font-size:12.8px">>> git push
--remote="git://</span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://awesome.example.com/" target="_blank"
style="font-size:12.8px">awesome.example.com</a><span
style="font-size:12.8px">"</span><br
style="font-size:12.8px">
> <span style="font-size:12.8px">This is a complete
nonsense!</span><br>
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<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">I agree and that's why I
think cmake ini files is a good idea.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Tamas</span></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 3:25 AM, Ruslan
Baratov <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ruslan_baratov@yahoo.com" target="_blank">ruslan_baratov@yahoo.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>On 15-Mar-16 02:42, Tamás Kenéz wrote:<br>
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<div>I also doubt this belongs to upstream. But you
could write a single, generic script which forwards
its arguments to cmake and also accepts and
processes the additional parameters along the way. I
don't think we'd lose anything:<br>
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<div> cmakeini -c ipad -H.
-DTHIS_WILL_BE_FORWARDED=AS_IT_IS</div>
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<div>This is the approach I took as I needed features
like you described. But if there would be a mature,
versatile, community-tested script I'd be willing to
use it and contribute to it.<br>
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As you can see I'm already using script `build.py` and
there is not enough power for now (even if it extends
CMake basic functionality a lot) so I was thinking to
introduce global/local ini-configuration file anyway. Then
I realize that most of the `build.py` functions can be
implemented in such ini-configuration. So why not use
CMake? Why for example not extend CMake GUI with this
feature support? Why do users need to install some extra
tools instead of just one?<br>
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Global/local configuration files in not something special.
Git for example has same system, yes it increase
complexity but literally every user store setting there.<br>
Just imagine you have to write something like this every
commit + push:<br>
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> git commit --author="John Doe" --email=<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:john.doe@example.com" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:john.doe@example.com">"john.doe@example.com"</a></a>
--branch="master"<br>
> git push --remote="git://<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://awesome.example.com" target="_blank">awesome.example.com</a>"<br>
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This is a complete nonsense!<br>
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So I'm planning to make a fork anyway and do some
experiments even if it will not accepted to upstream.<br>
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Ruslo<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Tamas</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at
4:22 PM, Ruslan Baratov via cmake-developers <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cmake-developers@cmake.org"
target="_blank">cmake-developers@cmake.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>On
14-Mar-16 21:59, Brad King wrote:<br>
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style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">On
03/12/2016 08:04 AM, Ruslan Baratov via
cmake-developers wrote:<br>
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style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">I
guess it is a well known fact that cmake
command is almost never<br>
executed alone and for non-trivial
examples usually hold some extra<br>
arguments (home directory, build
directory, verbosity level, toolchains,<br>
options, ...). Also I guess that such
commands doesn't change from<br>
day-to-day development process and an
obvious way to reduce typing is to<br>
create wrapper build scripts (.bat or .sh,
I personally use a Python one).<br>
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Sorry, I don't think something like this
belongs upstream. It can easily<br>
be done with shell aliases or other custom
scripts.<br>
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</span> I've got quite opposite experience. It's
hard to say that family of custom scripts (+ a
lot of environment variables in .bashrc) is an
"easy shell scripting", example:<br>
* <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/ruslo/polly/blob/162cd157d1d05261a7a708435197d883c4209005/bin/build.py"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/ruslo/polly/blob/162cd157d1d05261a7a708435197d883c4209005/bin/build.py</a><span><br>
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We shouldn't increase the complexity of the
CMake command line interface further.<br>
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</span> To be clear this feature required only
one new CMake option. The rest is responsibility
of some pre-build parsing module.<br>
<br>
In general I feel sad that CMake will not became
more user-friendly in this exact part. Though
the only proves of my point that can be provided
here is a users experience. Since I don't see
any feedback here I'm out of arguments...<br>
<br>
Ruslo
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